2012-05-27, 22:43 | Link #4541 | |
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Also, it's possible that the US pushed for the agreement because it was afraid that without it they wouldn't have any tertiary markets to sell their goods, given the way the EU was consolidating and expanding. They may have pushed for it as they thought the EU would get stronger then them economically. Likewise, the whole point of the EU was because european powers needed to be able to present a united front in order to not get consumed by the much larger US and Russian economies. If there had been no large outside powers threatening Europe, no major european country would have signed up to the EU. |
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2012-05-27, 22:50 | Link #4542 | ||
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However, to me at least, Republican refers more to the politicians who really don't care about such social issues, i.e. almost all of them.
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2012-05-27, 23:21 | Link #4543 | |
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No,we're treated to the likes of Sarah Palin, Santorum, Perry, or even John McCain (who can no longer seem to follow a coherent thought much less express one). We have Boehner and Cantor .... who are like nearly incompetent villains in a bad situation comedy.
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2012-05-27, 23:30 | Link #4544 | ||
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You are right, you didn't used the word "mere".
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2012-05-27, 23:45 | Link #4545 |
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In most complex cooperation agreements is imposible to give every member the exact amount of profits, even without ulterior motives (i.e. backstabbing). Forming groups to get defend from other groups is one of the many kinds of net profits cooperation grants.
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2012-05-27, 23:50 | Link #4546 | ||
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2012-05-27, 23:56 | Link #4547 |
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Jon was the only guy out of the original pack I thought was qualified/competent for the job and he lasted about two minutes before the barking dogs decided he wasn't "pure" enough.
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2012-05-28, 00:00 | Link #4548 |
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I have a similar view of the race except that I also hold that Ron Paul was qualified (in his ideals, at least) for presidency, however, I'm not sure of the congressman's executive abilities. I enjoyed his campaigning more for spreading something other than left/right and republican/democrat rhetoric.
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2012-05-28, 00:12 | Link #4549 | |
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Dodd-Frank was the right thing to do, it's just that the American legislative process is (legally) corrupt to the core by lobbying and special interests: Whatever power it had to make changes is now hopelessly diluted. A bank isn't a broken concept, it's the power the bank wields in politics and legislating that is broken (This whole 'Corporations are people, my friend' bullshit), which it will happily utilize and even abuse, given the chance.
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2012-05-28, 00:13 | Link #4550 | |
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But it looks like they've boxed him out.
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2012-05-28, 00:30 | Link #4551 | |
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2012-05-28, 00:53 | Link #4552 | ||
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I'm inclined to doubt it. The government has the authority to dismiss the debt the banks claim others owe. The housing market could easily have been shored up in that manner by forgiving all morgage debt and letting the banks suck wind. Money returning to being backed by specie would create an enormous amount of buying power in the hands of nearly all citizens while investors would loose their shirts. In other words, the 1% would loose a great deal of money (though they'd still be rich by any measure) while the bottom 99% would see their savings buy far more than they do now. That would allow small business to flourish. Would there be turbulence during the initial months after the collapse? Of course there would be, but that's what government is for, to provide stability during such a crisis without harming the citizenry. That's the problem with the bailout, it hurts the citizenry by reducing the buying power and thus value of their savings and their ability to purchase. Benefits, unemployment, etc. would have to be handled through local, state, and the Federal government. The unemployed would have to be employed (with temp-job programs like fixing the roads, picking up trash, doing actual work); benefits would be honered through the government via medicare and/or SS. A workable system to get us out of this corporatist nightmare is possible, it's just finding the willpower to take the initiative to do it that's the problem. Of course a complete restructuring of the current Statutory legal system would have to be apart of this. Regulations that hamper small business would have to go, and those that give monopolies (or duopolies) an advantage would also have to go. I not saying it would be easy or without considerable pain to the public, but it would be better in the long run to what we have now. Quote:
IN fact, I don't think it went far enough in restricting Wall Street's lending and trading behavior. Thus we agree.
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2012-05-28, 00:55 | Link #4553 | |
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2012-05-28, 01:09 | Link #4554 | |
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Boortz fell on his ass a few paragraphs in:
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2012-05-28, 01:14 | Link #4556 |
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man... so much hatin' going on here with the speech that's otherwise refreshing, straight-shooting tellin-it-painfully-how-it-really-is, and head & shoulders above the usual drown out cut & dry speeches I'd love to see the DVD/Bluray copy of that segment!
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2012-05-28, 02:37 | Link #4557 | |
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The money you get from not having to pay your house anymore isn't cash. If you want to sell in this environment, then you will have to compete with thousands of homeowners trying to sell their houses. It means housing prices will drop because of higher supply. Even if you do sell your house, how long will it last before you find a new job amid much higher unemployment? Quote:
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2012-05-28, 04:56 | Link #4559 | |
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2012-05-28, 05:22 | Link #4560 |
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It might take too long than it's worth but I thing than refuting each wrong thing of such ''speach'' should be done, and done with strong arguments or proofs. Othersize we are only declaring as they do, saying thing than could as well coming from a ass.
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