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2013-06-12, 16:47 | Link #3182 |
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Yeah, I also realized that. But I just don't see how he should have liked Manami. Because if he did, there was nothing that would have prevented him from going out with her, as she obviously would have accepted. What I think is, when Kyousuke said his answer back then and right now are the same, the meaning was more for making a point than him really rejecting Sakurai if she had confessed to him three years ago. Because didn't Kyousuke think when Sakurai told him, she was about to confess to him back then, that he would have been happy (which serves as another point against the notion that he liked somebody else back then), as his efforts would have been repaid and so on. But of course he couldn't say that in this situation, and due to him having made up his made concerning Kirino, there was also no way he would have said that, even if he could have. As for the statement to Sakurai in this chapter, I think that was just something he randomly threw out there, as obviously saying that he already loved his sister three years ago, when she still was an elementary schooler would have been even more disgusting.
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2013-06-12, 16:53 | Link #3183 |
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Well, remember what was said in the past about his porn choices. He used to have a thing for girls with glasses. Personally, I suspect he did have feelings for Manami in the past, which is why he was spending so much time with her (and was why Kirino, jealous of that, started distancing herself from both of them even before Manami's declaration to her). I think that Kyousuke has always wanted to impress Kirino and was close to her, but I suspect that he didn't love her that way three years ago.
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2013-06-12, 17:00 | Link #3185 | |
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2013-06-12, 17:05 | Link #3186 | |
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I tend to take Kyousuke's statement at face value here.
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2013-06-12, 17:09 | Link #3187 | |
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Is it really confirmed that he liked a different person 3 years ago, though? This TL is pretty confusing, and since he doesn't elaborate upon it I can only think: 1. He's lying about liking somebody 3 years ago 2. This way the conversation flows, maybe he's flippantly denying it but he actually did like imouto 3 years ago (Like, "yeah, right") 3. He did like Manami back then, but this causes a huge plot hole imo. Since Manami clearly liked him back then. In that order. Quote:
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2013-06-12, 17:10 | Link #3188 | |
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EDIT: @s0beit: my view is, he made that up on the fly. Because of the situation. I mean he was very embarrassed, and then Sakurai pressed him on with the question. And he also couldn't back out by saying he had nobody he liked three years ago, as this would have provoked Sakurai to ask him why he told her that his answer back then would have been the same.
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2013-06-12, 17:15 | Link #3189 | |
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2013-06-12, 17:21 | Link #3190 | |
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Because I think, if there was anybody he liked back then, wouldn't it perhaps have been Sakurai herself, because a few lines before that: Spoiler for Volume 11:
As for why he in this case he did not tell her the truth. First, he is rejecting her ultimately. So in order to leave no doubts, he also includes that "three years ago" to spare her the thought of "what if I had successfully confessed three years ago". Second is, because he already had made up his mind about Kirino, he was already in this kind of "close-the-door-and-lock-it-up" mode concerning rejections.
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(I've definitely known people where they both had feelings for the other person, didn't confess for whatever reason, later moved on in their lives, and way after realized that back then their feelings were mutual. It certainly happens.) Quote:
I guess I'm just not sure why we should think he's lying.
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2013-06-12, 17:23 | Link #3192 |
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Perhaps Kyousuke did harbor romantic feelings for Manami 3 years ago, but I think that they spent so much time together that he could only view her like a sister. When siblings spend so much time with each other they can no longer look at each other romantically, and i think a similar effect probably happened, in contrast with what happened with Kirino. Kyousuke always refers to Manami as an old granny, so alternatively we could also say he views her only as a doting elder sister (even though they are the same age)
His glasses fetish is probably what remained of that old crush. I don't think Kyousuke was referring to Manami with that statement though, I think he meant something along the lines of "i should have realized the person I truly love was there even three years ago." or yeah, he could have been winging the conversation. |
2013-06-12, 17:25 | Link #3193 | |
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Well, I think concerning the matter of fact, if he liked somebody back then, I would still say it's Kirino, even if he won't.
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Well, at that time he was being comforted by Manami and hugged too, so I guess it's whatever you want to think. EDIT: Quote:
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2013-06-12, 17:32 | Link #3194 | |
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"If it was only Manami, I could have agreed, because truely [sic], I really did [think] that." He did think at the time that he wanted to impress Manami, but did not realize that he wanted to impress Kirino. Then again, I'm not sure we can really expect him to have all his feelings figured out at that age anyway. I can definitely buy what Ricadan suggested that his feelings may have changed a bit after spending so much time with her over the years, to the point where he couldn't really see her as a love interest anymore. Certainly, by the point in time where a whole bunch of other attractive women start entering his life, I can see why he'd be to the point of denying his interest, but I actually don't think he truly felt nothing towards her, even early in the story.
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2013-06-12, 17:33 | Link #3195 | |
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Anyway, my point is, I think most likely it's that he did not like anybody in a real romantical sense back them. There were a number of people he wanted to show-off to (notably Kirino), and cared for, but they were still not nearly in the range for being considered as love interests.
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2013-06-12, 17:38 | Link #3196 |
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It certainly is ironic how positions shifted as a result of Manami scaring Kirino off setting up the dominos for the exact opposite to happen. Manami became like family and Kirino became a stranger. Thus allowing feelings of romantic love blossom between siblings and wane between childhood friends.
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2013-06-12, 17:53 | Link #3197 | |
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Wow, how much of this had Fushimi actually planned? |
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2013-06-12, 17:59 | Link #3199 | |
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But, this notwithstanding, for many reasons I think that the author had the ending for the story planned long in advance. If not right from the start, then not too long thereafter, given the hints that were dropped along the way.
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2013-06-12, 18:09 | Link #3200 |
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Really this novel gives you a hard time lol. The writter really trows things in the story that make you think. WHAT THE HELL! did he just said but didn't............................
This novel is just like a labirynth full of hints for different interpetations. Or maybe it is because of the rough translations/summary's? |
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