2013-10-08, 13:13 | Link #1741 | |
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It's not just blood vessels I think, Accel talks about nerve damage as well I believe. Whether or not it would affect Kakine is a good question, but him being "stained by science" is a major plot point, so I doubt it'd be fun for him at all.
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2013-10-08, 15:43 | Link #1744 | |
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For the Esper/Esper thing, the Level Upper arc showed that you can use other people's powers through a network as long as you have their brains to support it for you. Might be interesting if a telepath-type esper could facilitate this between two espers on purpose. |
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2013-10-08, 20:03 | Link #1745 | |
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Think the effect to the user when both using magic and esper ability is more akin to a "computer crash". For an esper, think of magic as an "exception". If an exception cannot be handled by the system, the system crashes. P.S. AIM and mana does not necessarily hate each other because if it is then Stiyl would have already died while battling Kamijou in Volume 1, given the abundance of AIM in AC. |
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2013-10-08, 20:42 | Link #1747 |
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Yes, what I mean is magicians aren't necessarily affected by AIM that is dispersed (AC is filled with AIM by default) unless the AIM gathers and forming intense pressure (what kazakiri did), thus affecting magicians. So its more like the pressure caused by gathering of AIM is what affected the magicians.
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2013-10-10, 01:02 | Link #1748 |
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Hey i guys i've thinking up a character for fun. Ive been thinking of 2 main powers, controlling protons(contrary to electrons) and dividing /or editing number of/and or directly the molecules. What kind of powers/ abilities would these entail
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2013-10-10, 14:21 | Link #1751 | |
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Did you do a bit of research before thinking that up? You might want to think of something else: without any specification on which type of molecules your Esper divide or which atoms he can control the protons of, it is ultimatey an OP* ability. There are thousands types of molecules, in every element on Earth, and protons are the nucleus of atoms, depending on which atoms it wouldn't have the same effects. Without speciying what exactly you mean by ''controlling'' or ''dividing'', it only looks like a OP ability for the sake of being OP. You're not even original, it's not the first time I see ''manipulate molecule, LOL''. People need to go to the Wikipedia's List of superhuman features and abilities in fiction to see how it's done before trying to basically create a god. But anyways, ranting aside, you could go for things far more realistic, no need to wank:
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2013-10-10, 15:39 | Link #1752 | |
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By the way, something came to my mind after Reading volumen 6 of NT: So far, we haven't had the real effects of a "true" Awakening described, but supposing that even with that, he and Kakine are still in the Osiris Aeon, what would Level 6 o SYSTEM be? If level 6 is getting out of God's System, then it must be being able to TRULY CREATE instead of using what already exists in the world, like everyone does. In Accel and Kakine's case, it would be, respectively: - Create His own movement, velocity & inercy equations and vectors, instead of depending on the ones devised by science a.k.a, shifting from "believing" in GOD/SCIENCE to believing in ONESELF - Create matter beyond the theories science side has come out; a new type of particle a.k.a shifting from "believing" in GOD/SCIENCE to believing in ONESELF And if Aleister gets access to the power to créate inercy laws and matter, then he should be able to créate a "NEW HEAVEN" or new universe. Which is probably another step to reach SYSTEM/DRAGON/AEON OF HORUS or Aiwass. Maybe Imagine Breaker is exactly that, SOMETHING CREATED OUTSIDE GOD'S SYSTEM. Another good comparison would be, assuming that my interpretation of SYSTEM is correct, Magic God grants Access to the 100% of the possibilities in the Univers, while SYSTEM allows one to go for the possibilities beyond the universe a.k.a, "true" infinite possibilities. On another note, I'm betting that Aleister only wants to "establish the method" for becoming a DRAGON |
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2013-10-10, 15:57 | Link #1753 | |
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What did you want me to say? ''Oh well, by controlling protons, your character can remove the protons from an atom, which leaves it with only neutrons and electrons, and the result is...well, the other neutrons will transform into protons to balance the charges and create another atom...depending on which atom was manipulated in the first place.'' Or better! ''By weakening molecular bonds, you can pass through matter! (theorically)'' Not really helpful, is it? That's because since the beginning, you did not think it through deeply You just went ''oh well, cutting and controlling atoms sounds awesome!'' Cool bro, but what do you wanna do with that? That is the question, you can't just ask people what it would do, what if you're disappointed? Listen, when you think of a superpower, a recommended thing to do would be to think of what it does before thinking of how it does it. ''Controlling protons'' and ''dividing molecules'' is not a power, it's the cause of a power. Quote:
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2013-10-10, 19:13 | Link #1756 |
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Yeah, I may be a bit harsh, but the Internet is full of bigger assholes than me. And don't misunderstand, I'm always interested in seeing people thinking up new powers, but that was a really clumsy attempt, and frankly sounds more like an idea made in the spur of the moment than a real project.
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2013-10-10, 21:17 | Link #1757 | |
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Out of curiosity, what exactly inspired you to choose those two powers for your character? Quote:
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2013-10-11, 02:14 | Link #1759 |
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For the most constructive criticism I have on using proton based abilities? Either you should have rudimentary theoretical knowledge of chemistry, sub-atomic physics or substantial research. Else, just forget about it.
All fictions has a right to be an ass in some respects because people who post on this board have done a lo of research, allfiction himself practices copious research. The way deemark comes in half-assed and expecting respect is already, in a way, being an ass to allfictions. Just sayin' |
2013-10-11, 03:46 | Link #1760 |
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Don't think about it too much, Level 6 = GOD, it's just as simple as that. A true "GOD", in Christian religion standard, isn't limited to any field and can do whatever he/she/it wants.
Also depending of your definition of 100% possibilities of the universe you might be wrong with your perception of a magic God's power, or wrong on how you can go beyond it. There's different stages when it comes to imagining all the possibilities of the universe : -the first stage is when you rearrange all the elements you can find inside the universe to your liking. (If I'm correct, this is what you're thinking about when you say 100% possibilities of the universe) -the second stage is when you bring up new/different elements. (If I'm correct, this is what you think when you say "going beyond the 100% possibilities") Magic God is already on the second stage by definition (and so is Kakine) : being capable of destroying everything and making their own made up worlds (with their own made up laws) a reality.
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