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You're citing external restrictions only, and Yomi didn't really care about any of these even before she succumbed to Kazuhiro's offer. After all, she killed Mei for personal, selfish reasons, acting out her emotions, notwithstanding possible repercussions. Her internal constraints however, were intact all the time until her death, otherwise she wouldn't have shed any tears over her victims and she wouldn't have felt guilty to the point where she attempted to take responsibility by committing suicide. I can't see that the stone changed her behaviour concerning inhibitions. Quote:
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But then again there is also a scene in the woods in which Yomi complains about losing her consciousness again (i.e. the stone taking over). This would also be canon with the manga material, so all we're talking about here could just be inconsistent nonsense, merely there because the production team wanted to spice things up but didn't think it out. Quote:
But in the end, cui bono? Yomi dies, Noriyuki runs away as always, Kagura becomes the hidden dream of many a twisted psychologist. She may have won the battle, but the war is inevitably lost. The small triumph only adds another dimension to the tragedy. That's what could have made Ga-Rei Zero fundamentally different from other series: There's no hope, no salvation, no future to look forward to. It's a struggle to exist and hide whenever possible, as living would be simply too painful. Without the closing apotheosis, it could've been quite realistic, really |
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2009-07-18, 13:34 | Link #1104 |
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Can't we petition for the producers of Ga Rei Zero to continue a story based off of Ga-rei zero? GRZ is much more popular (and better) than the regular GR series (IMO at least, and from what i gather online). It is just more fitting with the darker tone...and i feel if they are to make another season, they can't continue following the GR manga, have to make their own (with permission of author of course) path like GRZ, otherwise it might not turn out watchable...
I just feel like GRZ is popular enough, and profitable enough for them to make another season. |
2009-07-19, 11:54 | Link #1106 | ||||||||
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And it still doesn't explain why she cried when torturing Kazuki. Quote:
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One could also argue using a fundamentally different hypothesis: After Kazuhiro had placed the sesshouseki in Mei's chest, a single blue butterfly took flight from her body. Given that butterflies represent the human soul, it could mean that the real Mei was already dead and her soul detached from her body. Then, all that drove the stone were lingering emotions and intentions. In the long run, that alone wasn't sufficient, so it malfunctioned. In that case, her reaction prior to her death was nothing but a feint. Quote:
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When it is so well thought through then why is Ranguren portrayed to be so much more powerful and handy than Byakuei even though the latter is supposed to be the strongest spiritual beast? Why do we see Kagura's father on the verge of exhaustion when trying to fuse with Byakuei yet Kagura only needs to put it in her earlobe when she inherits it, skipping the large-scale ritual? There were a few other things that bugged me back then, but I forgot most of them over time. Lots of stuff seemed either misplaced, random, forced or vague to the point of redundancy. I wouldn't mind that much if Ga-Rei Zero was merely a bonus for fans of the original material, but as a stand-alone spin-off I expected more explanations and lore consistency. Especially compared to what Ei Aoki did with the first Kara no Kyoukai movie, the direction was rather lackluster with a few deceptive strokes of genius. |
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2009-07-31, 04:50 | Link #1107 |
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It would be watchable, but I don't think that many people would watch it ;/ --- You aren't talking about the current chapters of Ga-Rei?? Did you drop it?? Well, I really hope, that the real Yomi will be back, but I am not sure, if that will be possible. |
2009-08-17, 04:02 | Link #1111 |
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the ending already connected to the starting of the manga, s2 following manga?
maybe they can tell an older story like how they able to capture that white beast or that lion in the katana no matter how they do it, Yomi will not be shown (as human form)... |
2009-09-10, 13:44 | Link #1114 |
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Files of the 4th Division, Chapter 7
Nice to see some feedback from the show despite the show having a short run. I did a fanfic on the 4th Division. Here's their latest chapter though. A slice of life-type one though.
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2009-09-30, 17:54 | Link #1116 |
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I just finished watching this and I have to say I was very impressed. Having started the show without any previous knowledge about it or the manga, the first episode certainly gave a nice "WTF moment" at the end. The characters were compelling and well written, and it built to a nice end. The last show was a bit anticlimactic, ending in the middle, but it makes sense as it is only a prequel (which took me to the last episode to realize, despite having zero in the name >>) I am hoping they will continue the anime based on the manga sometime in the future. It seems a fair amount of people were generally unimpressed by the manga, which makes me a bit worried. However, it seems a bit unrealistic to think they would set the end of Zero at the start of the manga if they were going to make more original plot anime. Hopefully the same team would work on a manga-based continuation and inject the same skill that made the prequel so enjoyable into adapting the plot for television.
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2009-10-01, 03:24 | Link #1120 |
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Mei did try to fight against the stone's influence. But her will wasn't as strong and her desires were dark and selfish. She wanted Yomi to die by fighting against an evil spirit. Afterall it's probably only the matter of time. But that never happened. But she never wanted to do such things like killing Naraku and else. Without the stone she would've waited maybe even for all eternity for her chance. Yomi: she had it bad and tragedies occour with her again. First of all I would doubt many people could resist the desire to kill somone after they playfully claim to have killed the person's own father and even describe how she tortured him. Especially if they have the Alibi. Afterall that person is possessed somehow. And eliminating evil spirits is her responsibility. So in the end she was caught in it. And probably because of her growing dark side and her extreme circumstances that she was resigned to the Death Stone. It was explained that the Death stone releases every inhibition the person had. For example if somone pisses her off she can't hold her anger back, or when she has resentment towards anyone she wants to kill him/her. Same with jaelusy. Perhaps it means the same to love. She had absolutely zero desire to kill Noriyuki that's why she left him alive. It was a bit different with Kagura. She was jaelus of her skill, her family line, and her happyness. And perhaps she loved her like her own blood-related sister. In the end the later one was triumphant and she let herself killed by Kagura. But maybe the Death Stone has somehow it's own will too. And it enchances the person's malacious impulses. That's why the Yomi we saw in the manga was a different one and was almost fully evil. So in short when Kagura's mind died the Death Stone's will took over. But I guess the death Stone's own will is relatively weak or at least weak compared to the willpower of an exortist's. |
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