The enigma behind Miria and Priscilla's arm are solved and Priscilla/Claire are not going anywhere, but honestly what will happen to Raki? Will the revolt free him or what?
Shiek is correct, but there is little else to do
@Ryus
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I am loving everything about FNV at the moment. I enjoyed Fo3, but the main story was god awful and don't get me started on how they planned DLC to have your character live. Better yet, the god damn super mutant who could survive the radiation just says "lolno," until you buy a DLC. Amazing writing.
Worst yet, the main story really did not have that much choice for an RPG and the story was just lame. You either were Wastelander Jesus or Satan and neither choice really seemed to matter. Far too black and white in terms of morality. I have the same issue with Bioware at the moment. Bethesda and Bioware cannot write compelling moral dilemmas.
With F:NV I think there is actually a dilemma to what you choose. Each faction actually has merits (even legion), but whomever you choose there will be a downside. Ultimately humanity is making it way back to civilization and you decide the course it takes. You can choose the NCR that will just be the US congress all over again. You can choose Legion to usher in a era of martial prowess and eventually a new empire built of violence and conquest. With the neutral endings the people remain free of domination, but also you can choose to prevent civilization from coming back entirely. The choices were actually thought out beyond a Hollywood movie ending.
Fallout NV is just like Kotor 2 to me, buggy, but ultimately a far more satisfying story with better writing and moral dilemmas.
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I'm not disagreeing on your points... the main plot of Fo3 wasn't as good as it could have been. However the main plot IMHO wasn't the main point of the game it was several hundred hours worth of side quests and exploration that you could do. On this front Fo3 was vastly superior. It was a world with most fokes not caring about the central conflict minus those directly effected, not a poor attempt to have most of the side quests tieing into the main plot and purposely trying to make no one look good or evil.
As to you're KotOR 1 vs 2 example I loved both games equally for very different reasons. However with F:NV I wasn't really drawn into the whole dilemma of the choice between factions since there was only piss poor characters on all fronts whom couldn't give me a compelling reason to go one way or another. Don't get me wrong the legion was evil but did good and the NCR was supposed to be good but did evil, however there was a very laid back approach to how the writers choose to involve you. I mean lets face it, in an example of the evil of the NCR they try to get you to destroy all the sub factions though they accept peaceful means if you can achieve them and half of the groups they told you to whip out where clearly legit targets in a war setting. Cry me a bloody river... like I'd be arguing evil if I really lived in F:NV over that. We all understood they where there to gain resources for there nation. As to the Legion they had already destroyed all raiders in there area by crucifying the bastards but women had no rights other then to have kids... whom was also there to claim the resources just more brutal on a personal scale unlike the attack on ones wallet like the NCR was doing.
To someone very interested in geopolitics F:NV felt like a very crappy attempt to do that and there was no dilemma that wasn't beyond the 101 level. I mean why should I care about Ghouls trapped in a corner of all bunker vs a Nuclear power plant melt down that's about the effect the lives of all of NV... some moral dilemma. Humanity as a whole and/or entire cities trumps any individual or small group when only one can survive. I get what you where saying about the main quest of Fo3 but everything writing wise about F:NV was weak... Lets face it's F:NVs main plot really ended with Benny (and I killed him pretty early ) I mean wtf... people think your the almighty in F:NV since you suvived a gunshot to the head... personally I think that means you where a sap who got jumped not the worlds next go to guy for assaulting several armies single handedly.
As stated siding with any of the factions lead to an unbalanced map and as enemies none felt like an army... just poorly formed squads. As to the buggy game I fully agree it is way more buggy. Was that my grip why it was a worse game, not at all... though it was another nail in the coffin. At least the BHoS had the excuse that power armor, energy weapons, & there robot let them do that in Fo3.
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Allow me to disagree, Ryus. Sure, the plot in DA:O was epic but let's face it, it was super generic. A dormant evil awakens for the first time in centuries. Go stop it.
DA:2's act III was God awful but the entire act II, from the White Lily killer to the Zealots vs Qunari was, simply put, a masterpiece. And the final duel just stroke my male ego in all the rigth places.
I actually tougth that Anders's change was justifiable and interesting. Basically, good character development.
Isabela, Varric and Bethany are also my favorite characters. But how do we get rid of Merril? I've been trying to shoo her away ever since she suggested we shouldn't defend ourselves from Demons because being evil is in their nature, they can't help it.
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I completely agree about act 2 (it was a master piece... but then you got forced into 10 more hours of game play I mean why did the writing stop with act 2? I felt insulted by act 3 lack of attempt) and #1 being generic. So overall I see act 3 putting DA:2 below DA:O in terms of overall writing, plus DA:O really delivered at the end of that game where as I almost didn't care about anything by the time I finished act 3 of DA:2... I'll replay act 2 forever but I'll only complete act 3 again if my save will cross over to the next DA game if I complete act 3. :/
I agree that Anders changes where justified but he was less interesting imo afterwards. As to Merril I loved listening to Isabela tease her when randomly walking around town.
I mean you take her into a brothel and she asks "Why do they call this a brothel? Does it have something to do with broth?" Sheltered people meeting the real world are so fun to tease and listen too. That's why I enjoyed her as a character... or how about (Miner): "...but don't go that way, there's a huge dragon!"
(Merrill - to Hawke): "Are we gonna go that way? I've never seen a huge dragon before. "
Anyways the best character in the game was once again Flemeth (though I loved Morrigan too)... god I hope DA:3 is about her. Nixl might be interested to hear that she's very close to Kreia from KotOR 2 in many regards.
Could have sworn this was a Claymore thread. Not a "Bad Video Games Thread".
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And, sorry. DA II had a few good points, but none of them matter when the game is likely going down in the history books for the most recycled areas of any rpg...ever. Like, literally, you get to play one warehouse map, one cave map, one mansion map 50 times each. I have never before encountered such laziness on the part of the developers before. Oh, and apparently every mage in Kirkwall worships Blood, and you need to buy the DLC companion Sebastian if you want to learn that all the Blood Magic you encounter through the game has nothing to do with the Templar vs Mage conflict that you would otherwise think is responsible if you had not bought the DLC, but rather some third party that is never fully revealed and will likely be expanded upon in more DLC. The fact that you only find this out if you had that companion DLC sort of invalidates most of the drama you go through in the main game. Don't support EA. They've pretty much ruined Bioware. DA II could have been a great game, but a 15 month development cycle compared to the 5 year cycle for DA I. Or the multi-year cycles of any AAA RPG. You do the math.
With the amount of material that's been put out since the Northern campaign, anyone else really feel regret at how they choose to do an anime original ending? They should have just ended on a cliffhanger because there'd easily be enough content for another season or two of Claymore. Back when the anime did that lame ending, I figured it was because the manga wasn't going to go on much longer, but boy, was I wrong. We've come a long way since then.
Anyways, I am kind of starting to wonder when we'll ever get back to Claire. I mean, hey, I like Miria and am just dying to watch all her new Claymore buds get slaughtered by this/these zombieNumberOne(s) the MIB are about to release, but Claire is the protagonist right? I know she's not the most interesting character and all, but it's been an awful long time with no movement on that part of the story. I mean, back when Yagi decided to drop the bombshell concerning the Org and Dragons and crazy Mainland stuff, I know we were supposed to take that as him shifting away from the personal story of Claire's travels that would eventually lead her to realizing revenge is empty and blah blah blah, and instead shifting the story into something entirely different about how we need to power up to level 99999 and go fight some dragons, but I was sort of holding out hope that his craziness was mostly to appease what I hoped was his editor requesting more formulaic craziness to sell manga with, and that he'd manage to both cater to the Dragonball Z crowd while also continuing on the personal story of growth concerning Claire and ultimately Pricsilla. With Claire being out of the picture for so long, I'm starting to loose faith here.
Personally, I'm somewhat glad that Clare has been out of the story for a while.
Priscilla vs Clare was a pretty major development in her personal story, and we are just waiting for the actual conclusion of that fight at this point. Now the focus has shifted to the Organization vs the Ghosts.
I expect that cocoon style thing will open up whenever these zombie #1's begin to overwhelm the rebelling Warriors.
I know she's not the most interesting character and all...
THAT is only YOUR opinion. You're right it is time that we hear from clare again.
I think that she still fights priscilla but no one can see it.
I don't think that we will see her as a claymore again. I mean even the way she is
now she is already to powerful.
THAT is only YOUR opinion. You're right it is time that we hear from clare again.
I think that she still fights priscilla but no one can see it.
I don't think that we will see her as a claymore again. I mean even the way she is
now she is already to powerful.
i hate how clare is getting thrown around like garbage im really losing interest in claymore because of this. if she is dead or become a monster then the story is over for me.
im interested on how this destroyer issue is going to end up though. i agree i dont think clare will return sadly maybe only her conscious exists and eventually that will die when the destroyer gets destroyed.
but possibly since the yoki is apart of her she just regenerated herself.
I'm pretty much 100% positive Clare will return, so I'm not really worried about that. What I'm more interested in is how her return will be triggered, and what will happen with Priscilla in the process.
If Galatea is correct, Clare is simply containing Priscilla and has no intention of coming out.
I suspect that if her friends are in mortal danger, Clare would still react and emerge from her "cocoon" state to save them with her new found Abyssal+ powers.
Alternatively, Priscilla is the one who will react to something (potentially zombie Teresa) and escape from Clare, who will then be forced to give chase.
I'm pretty much 100% positive Clare will return, so I'm not really worried about that. What I'm more interested in is how her return will be triggered, and what will happen with Priscilla in the process.
If Galatea is correct, Clare is simply containing Priscilla and has no intention of coming out.
I suspect that if her friends are in mortal danger, Clare would still react and emerge from her "cocoon" state to save them with her new found Abyssal+ powers.
Alternatively, Priscilla is the one who will react to something (potentially zombie Teresa) and escape from Clare, who will then be forced to give chase.
hm i forgot the scene with galatea im just losing hope since its been long. but you are probably right. im curious, if clare is released, will she say what it was like to be in a blob trapped with her worst enemy
Clare is the main character so she will come back and that is one reason why I got tired of her- so bleach, dragon ball etc… at least miria has good changes to get killed – I just not wanted her to get killed in that troll move she made…
Zombie teresa and revival are different words but the mib must have some kind of control of them ( and then will lose control of them lol, lol). I prefer that those new numbers 1 have intelligence and personality of their own – with some luck we may have a new ophelia
For me the best thing that could happen to clare is to her get killed at that bloob thing – let see:
. she is far weaker then pris
. she got borrowed the power of 2 abyssal beings just to just stop her
This way is real cheap that she comes victorious alone at that battle. in fact, the sisters are actually helping clare so it is not 1 versus 1 or a fair battle.
I would prefer that all the claymores make an effort to kill pris after the org is destroyed.
i am with ya on a new ophelia, but sadley Clare shred her to pieces... leaving only her vitals without any vital signs...
lol, I can't share your dislike towards Clare. I guess i got hooked up in this manga because of her.. and this is so far from Bleach (bleh).
Miria taking a plunge is also unlikley (though I wouldn't be one to complain if she did)... though I still wish all her kamikaze rundown of org was better set.
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btw wouldn't it be funny if somehow both Clare and Prissy's souls merged and Prissy is stuck in Clare's head? That would create some serious split personality disorders
I liked her too – past, not now. when was with raki it was a good thing to see but I got tired of some things of her. I didn’t wanted to say to clare get killed but both of them – clare and pris being forever in that blob would be a good end because of the difference of power among them.
I don’t want to pass, somehow, the message that I am after clare ass, just saying that some things are better not to happen – like she wining to pris that is far more powerful than her. She can win to her with help of others or by being there forever with her. In a way clare has already win to pris if she stays forever there, frozen.
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though I still wish all her kamikaze rundown of org was better set.
Don’t tell me, I always ranting here about that
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i am with ya on a new ophelia,
Roxanne of Love and Hate is the claymore you are after. A messed name for a messed mind
Hey hey hey ...
One question : The issue of May is reported to middle-april, we are ok ?
So the spoilers for chapter 114 & 115 will be out like 15-20th April ? ^^
I would prefer that all the claymores make an effort to kill pris after the org is destroyed.
And what do you think this would accomplish? They would only be slaughtered.
IMO only clare can beat priscilla and only because she has teresa inside her.
I can only hope that priscilla will be punished for what she did.
I really hate that bitch.
I said it before:
This woman deserves her revenge and priscilla deserves to die!
And what do you think this would accomplish? They would only be slaughtered.
IMO only clare can beat priscilla and only because she has teresa inside her.
I can only hope that priscilla will be punished for what she did.
I really hate that bitch.
I said it before:
This woman deserves her revenge and priscilla deserves to die!
teresa is negligable; afterall clare would of won in her latest bout with priscilla
on the other hand the combined Clare body with teresa, illena, jean? (debatable), raphaela & lucelia all do make something together
It looked like clare would have won but what irritated me was how calm priscilla stayed despite clare seemed to be cutting her to pieces.
I think therefore that there is a possibility that priscilla would have survived clare's attack without problems.
.well, i see pris more like a victim ( still I like Teresa lot more then clare or pris or even both of them)
.at the time of Teresa I would prefer the teresa travels instead of clare travels and I remember me thinking if was not clare then we would have Teresa around because all that plot was to justify the clare extreme power ( who is always acting as a weak- another point I don’t like her)
. the destroyer is helping clare so it is not a fair battle – for me it’s ok about that - but she even need more power ( friends ) to kill her. I just want that yagi says that is the combine effort that allowed clare to beat her and not just her
.despite all that the only way to clare to kill pris single handed is her to awake and beat her, doing this would be great as a plot or story because we never knew Teresa true power and there is a chance of her being more powerful than pris. Obvious clare would want to eat raki after and all humans because more power more hungry and she would become the monster after that( replacing pris from her throne) , always eating little children and puppies. I m worried out about the story itself and not the fate of the characters after all who fights by the sword dies by the sword.
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I forgot the exact day but it may be in the last page, day 21 or something. Spoilers I doubt because all this is very abnormal.
I also see Priscilla as a victim all things considered, but I really wouldn't cry over it if Clare succeeded in killing her.
As for Priscilla being nonchalant, I think that its likely that Priscilla was still too strong for Destroyer-Clare, thus the reason she trapped Priscilla instead of just killing her.
At the very least, Priscilla's regenerative capability made it impossible for Destroyer-Clare to actually kill her.
Trapping them both was the next best option, it prevents both Priscilla and Destroyer-Clare from being the apex predator on the island, and saving basically everyone from certain doom.
Still wondering what will result in that action. It can go any number of ways; from Clare merging with Priscilla somehow, to Priscilla being turned back into a human/non-awakened Warrior.
Personally, I'm somewhat glad that Clare has been out of the story for a while.
Priscilla vs Clare was a pretty major development in her personal story, and we are just waiting for the actual conclusion of that fight at this point. Now the focus has shifted to the Organization vs the Ghosts.
I expect that cocoon style thing will open up whenever these zombie #1's begin to overwhelm the rebelling Warriors.
i think the moment zombie teresa uses her yoki, the cocoon will respond :gar, both claire and priscilla will recognize that yoki and want to go there :awesome
definitely time for Clare to come back. she's been in visual training for the last 6 months, so she better come out as Teresa jr. i think Yagi's lost the scope of the story. don't forget that the main plot is still Clare vs Pris. the addition of Miria vs org and the Island War are far too huge and ambitious for the series. now that they've done the Miria vs org, he can't turn back, but if he focuses on the island war next and not the original plot, i would be rather upset.
i once joked with my friend in high school that we'd be graduated from college and have jobs by the time the series finished, and its sooooo disheartening that that statement will be true...
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I think it’s safe to say that Clare will definitely return (being the protagonist and all) and that it will be her who defeats Priscilla and avenges Teresa as that’s been her goal from the beginning.
Someone mentioned before about a potential mental battle going on inside the "cocoon" (similar to Clare and Rafaela) and I feel this is likely the direction that Yagi will go initially (potentially leading to Clare finding out what the mistake is she is making/Priscilla realising that its Teresa’s aura she has been sensing).
The fight probably won’t be decided within the cocoon but we will see something before they break out.
Speaking of the mistake Clare is making, anyone have any theories on what it may be? Rafaela seems to suggest her memories hold the answer. I'm eager to find out what this is.
Humanity as a whole and/or entire cities trumps any individual or small group when only one can survive. I get what you where saying about the main quest of Fo3 but everything writing wise about F:NV was weak... Lets face it's F:NVs main plot really ended with Benny (and I killed him pretty early 
) I mean wtf... people think your the almighty in F:NV since you suvived a gunshot to the head... personally I think that means you where a sap who got jumped not the worlds next go to guy for assaulting several armies single handedly. 
. But how do we get rid of Merril? I've been trying to shoo her away ever since she suggested we shouldn't defend ourselves from Demons because being evil is in their nature, they can't help it.
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