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View Poll Results: Madoka Magica - Episodes 11 & 12 Ratings | |||
Perfect 10 | 276 | 67.65% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 70 | 17.16% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 40 | 9.80% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 14 | 3.43% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 6 | 1.47% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.25% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.25% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-04-21, 23:25 | Link #241 | |
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who knows, in past timelines where madoka wasnt so attractive Sayaka could have y'know, been just another battery for Kyubey? and also your "ohmahgawd Madoka gets stupidsuperstrong instantly" argument has flaws 1) as stated before, Madoka DID show a general, if uneven power increase throughout the flashbacks in ep 10. 2) the huge leap between Madoka's powers in timeline 4 and the earlier timelines could be explained by teh simple fact that Timeline 4 MAY NOT HAVE TAKEN PLACE DIRECTLY AFTER THE PREVIOUS TIMELINE SHOWN (this goes for all the other timelines shown in ep 10) As stated in ep 11, homura had gone through countless repetitions, making madoka stronger and stronger in the process. For all we know Homura could have repeated another 10,000,000 timelines in between timeline 3 and timeline 4 of ep 10
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2011-04-21, 23:26 | Link #243 |
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What gave you the idea that Kyubey was specifically interested in Madoka in the original timeline? There was no indication as far as I could tell that she was anything but an average Magical Girl through the first 1-3 timelines. It wasn't until timeline 4 that she showed any kind of special power beyond what was within the realm of normal variance. Now if you're referring to the timeline that the main story encompasses then yes, Kyubey being particularly interested in Madoka is an important plot point but it's also justified at that point given how many times Homura has looped.
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2011-04-21, 23:30 | Link #244 |
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While yes Kyoko and Mami reappear, after you watch the credits, it shows Homura in a desert (post-apocalyptic?) seemingly all alone, fighting the demons. While there may be still other Puella Magi, the scene seems to imply that Homura is the only one left.
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2011-04-21, 23:31 | Link #245 |
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^OR homura was just fighting demons in a desert. XD
i mean as long as the human race exists, kyubey and co will be able to contract more MGs so homu dying isnt that bad. and if the human race went extinct there wouldnt be demons, as they are born from the accumulated grief of humans.
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2011-04-21, 23:32 | Link #246 | |
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Although this now makes me wonder what a wish of no grief and despair in the world would accomplish. I suppose witches would continue to exist from depletion of magic, but I also think they're a direct result of accumulated grief and despair. Bleh its too complex to think if that would better change the system or not.
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2011-04-21, 23:33 | Link #247 | |
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2011-04-21, 23:33 | Link #248 |
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Now, I've been a fan of this genre since... Sailor Moon came out.
My thoughts on this, is that this is by far the best of the mahou shoujo genre that I have seen in years. The ending was actually very good, and also keeps it somewhat open. This anime is going to be ranked high in my list among other mahou shoujo animes I've enjoyed watching in the the past couple decades. The characters were likeable, the animation was unique and artistic in some ways. And, the story was much different than what I've seen in other mahou shoujo series. Spoiler:
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2011-04-21, 23:34 | Link #249 |
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well played QB, should you not warn Madoka that without magic girls humanity would still live in caves, she could have made a wilder wish (say for his race to disappear, or infinite energy, or for everyone to be happy and content, etc).
Anyway, at least she sacrificed herself (Jesus-style), redeeming herself for all the inaction and angst during the main time-line Oh! and Homura just got pawned for remembering Madoka, therefore unable to benefit from her sacrifice, unlike Kyouko, and Mami... speaking of which, why did she survive, her death was not because of Madoka Overall, very good ending, and show, storytelling and pacing were excellent, and I don't see any gaping plot-holes... well except Mami, but I might have missed something. PS: How the Hell people can say that this was a "deus ex machina" ending!? There was an 11-episode built-up to Madoka's wish and deification!!! |
2011-04-21, 23:35 | Link #250 |
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To be honest, the ending was disappointing to me. The situation got resolved not through Madoka's effort and will, but by manipulation of a narrative device that could by nature handle anything asked of it. I wanted Madoka (and Homura) to gain their ending by working for it, especially since wishes were built up as things that can have no happy outcome. I still like the show, and I'm grateful for the precedent it's set for the magical girl genre, but I wanted a better ending.
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2011-04-21, 23:36 | Link #251 | |
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i think if people who have only watched the raws watched the subbed versions, a lot of the confusion will disappear
as for me im still a bit puzzled by Homura's new role (Wings??) in the end. Is she just another powerful Magical girl, or is she something more? also, has 2Chan crashed yet? XD Quote:
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2011-04-21, 23:38 | Link #252 |
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After the amount of hype and tension surround the ending, I felt that the finale of the series was a bit underwhelming. That is not to say the ending wasn't satisfied in a conclusive manner, but the overall emotional impact wasn't too heart wrenching or sad really. Although, Madoka's wish does help give Magical Girls the end they desire, which is not regretting their wishes. All the magical girls ended up dieing/disappearing to maintain their own personal beliefs and will. It's the bittersweet ending I had really hoped for to end the series.
QB seemed become much more tolerable considering she hanging around with Homura, thanks to the rearrangement of the universe. Not too happy with how Sayaka ended up. Both Kamijou and Hitomi can go die in a fire for all I care, worst childhood friend and "girl" friend ever. On a last note, anyone catch in the very end of the final episode, where Homura starts growing some cosmic shadow wings behind her back, that there were some of the strings of fate being being broken, referenced by QB previously? |
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2011-04-21, 23:39 | Link #255 | |
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2011-04-21, 23:39 | Link #256 |
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I'm satisfied with the ending myself. However since I have a deadline tomorrow I don't feel like writing a lengthy post explaining why so I'll just expect people remembering my post style from the past and filling in the gaps.
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2011-04-21, 23:41 | Link #257 |
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This isn't the last we'll see of Homerun-chan. At least, with that sort of ending, we might see the cast (Fingers crossed for the whole cast) show up again for another season.
Though, I read some where (on here, too lazy to dig up post) that it might be a slice of life. I wonder how many people would watch that?
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2011-04-21, 23:41 | Link #258 | |
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2011-04-21, 23:43 | Link #260 | |
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