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Soliloquy · 2011-09-11, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Westlo

Good god man just import it from Playasia for like $50. You can also pick up Catherine for about $60. Why wait and pay more? The only time I buy games from shops in Aus is if it comes out the same time as everywhere else.. and even than i try and get the $80 sales from whereever like JBHIFI.

I'm already quite a frequent customer of PlayAsia and I do like how the games are generally cheaper and the rare games are easier to find. One thing I did not like is that downloading DLC is useless and I was oblivious to it. I bought DLC for Blazblue and was I disappointed that it didn't work because mine's NTSC region DVD. I guess there are more pros than con to buy in PlayAsia but still I would wait for Disgaea for a long time until the PAL version drops the price. However I guess I would pick up Catherine after all and another game I'm looking forward to.

EdenB · 2011-09-11, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Soliloquy

I'm already quite a frequent customer of PlayAsia and I do like how the games are generally cheaper and the rare games are easier to find. One thing I did not like is that downloading DLC is useless and I was oblivious to it.

I'm also in a PAL region with a UK PS3. It is possible to get content from the US store though. I've downloaded a demo and a free game before.

You need to make a US address account. There are problems using most credit/debit cards though since it usually checks the address on your US PSN account address with the address on your card. You can use US Network cards, which you can buy online from here. I've heard this place recommended, since it's not vastly overpriced like play-asia's cards and they send it to you by e-mail.

Von Himmel · 2011-09-11, 21:36

I give up...I had a small debate over this game's graphic. He said something along the line of "there's no difference between this and D3!"

Seriously, how can one be so blind? @_@

Duo Maxwell · 2011-09-11, 23:27

Betcha his TV isn't bigger than 20 inches.

Westlo · 2011-09-12, 06:45

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Originally Posted by Soliloquy

I'm already quite a frequent customer of PlayAsia and I do like how the games are generally cheaper and the rare games are easier to find. One thing I did not like is that downloading DLC is useless and I was oblivious to it. I bought DLC for Blazblue and was I disappointed that it didn't work because mine's NTSC region DVD. I guess there are more pros than con to buy in PlayAsia but still I would wait for Disgaea for a long time until the PAL version drops the price. However I guess I would pick up Catherine after all and another game I'm looking forward to.

Just make an American account (just google an American address) and buy USA PSN cards off PlayAsia or wherever is cheaper. Right now they're selling $50 USA PSN Cards for $59.71 AUS. And IIRC American DLC prices are much cheaper than our Australian store. Blazblue DLC characters were like $5 with tax compared to $7.95, not to mention the money you save from buying the American version of Disgaea 4 @ $50 as opposed to $100 here.

Soliloquy · 2011-09-13, 22:52

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Originally Posted by EdenB

You need to make a US address account. There are problems using most credit/debit cards though since it usually checks the address on your US PSN account address with the address on your card. You can use US Network cards, which you can buy online from here. I've heard this place recommended, since it's not vastly overpriced like play-asia's cards and they send it to you by e-mail.

Thanks I'll look at the site. I haven't even considered looking to get US Account.

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Originally Posted by Westlo

Just make an American account (just google an American address) and buy USA PSN cards off PlayAsia or wherever is cheaper. Right now they're selling $50 USA PSN Cards for $59.71 AUS. And IIRC American DLC prices are much cheaper than our Australian store. Blazblue DLC characters were like $5 with tax compared to $7.95, not to mention the money you save from buying the American version of Disgaea 4 @ $50 as opposed to $100 here.

I think I shall definitely look up on that even though it's a bit risky. Right now I have a good excuse why I'm not buying it yet. Too busy with the projects.

Von Himmel · 2011-09-16, 12:03

Had just finished chapter 1...Valvatorez is so cool!

I mean, the story is still wacky as before, but I don't know

He and Fenrich make it as if the whole story is serious and cool

Tong · 2011-09-23, 12:37

Dont miss out guys, HD Asagi is now avaiable for free download

Well, since monday actually...

Von Himmel · 2011-09-25, 01:31

Finally finished this game. Seriously, this one of the best Disgaea I've ever played since 1.

All those new features are awesome, and I'm also glad that they decided to nerf a bit for grinding methods. It makes the game a bit more difficult but it also makes playtime longer. And also..all those stages! Are there even any normal stages in this game? Many of them require fiddling around with geoblock or many other instance where we need to grind much so that we can finish the stage

I think this is also the most difficult Disgaea in terms of story stage difficulty

btw, Valvatore and Artina ;__; Valvatore is probably the most..sane protagonist in disgaea series

Well, I forgot that Adell is more sane than him (SARDIINEESSS)

But I still think that he's the best protag with all his speeches and leadership abilities.

kuroishinigami · 2011-09-25, 08:06

Guh. I want to play too, but waiting for a cheap used one before buying XD. Well, the complaint I have with all NIS strategy game is the massive grinding needed to complete the game. Is it the same with this one?

Vegard Aune · 2011-09-25, 08:21

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Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Guh. I want to play too, but waiting for a cheap used one before buying XD. Well, the complaint I have with all NIS strategy game is the massive grinding needed to complete the game. Is it the same with this one?

The truly insane grinding doesn't really come into play before the post game. The main story doesn't have that much of it. (That's not to say you'll never have to grind in the main story, but it's not too excessive. You can generally get through the story without having to stop to grind too often, and even when you do need to grind, it'll usually go quickly enough as long as you know the best stages to do it on... The second stage in chapter 3 seems to be considered the best one through the majority of the story-mode.)

So anyway, I recently learned that one of the stores near where I live sells imported games... So I decided to ask them to import the US version of Disgaea 4... Then it turned out that they had already ordered it. They finally got it in stock two days ago, and I pretty much stormed over to pick it up immediately.

...And then I spent basically the entire rest of the day and like half of the day after just playing Disgaea 4. Good God this game is addictive. I'm up to chapter 6 now, and so far, I can't think of a single thing that bothers me about it. I think this might just be my favourite game in the series.

kuroishinigami · 2011-09-25, 08:34

Well, the problem is I'm a little obsessive compulsive in term of completing a game, that is I usually either beat the game completely with all the secret or end up not beating it at all. With the lack of time I have nowadays, I've been telling myself to just play it normally and leave the secret alone, but somehow I've been unsuccessful at it. Well, it's not like I will end up not buying it even if the game a little grindy anyway, I'm just curious whether it's still as grindy, or even more grindy than Disgaea 1 and 2.

Vegard Aune · 2011-09-25, 08:52

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Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Well, the problem is I'm a little obsessive compulsive in term of completing a game, that is I usually either beat the game completely with all the secret or end up not beating it at all. With the lack of time I have nowadays, I've been telling myself to just play it normally and leave the secret alone, but somehow I've been unsuccessful at it. Well, it's not like I will end up not buying it even if the game a little grindy anyway, I'm just curious whether it's still as grindy, or even more grindy than Disgaea 1 and 2.

Well, seeing how I'm still only halfway through the main plot I can't really say anything for sure, but I'd assume it's still as grindy, yeah.

Tong · 2011-09-25, 13:29

Equips>Level.

Just you guys wait until I complete my semiPerfect Legendary Prinny Staff.

kuroishinigami · 2011-09-25, 20:58

But to level up your equip, you need to farm a lot too xD. In fact, that's the most time consuming part of nis games isn't it?

Von Himmel · 2011-09-25, 22:56

I've heard that duping your items are much easier in this game. Grinding exp in early post-game is harder than D3 thugh IMO.
...Though I've also heard that the requirement to open land of carnage is...hard in this game.

FlareKnight · 2011-09-25, 23:58

Can definitely sink a lot of times. Go around leveling up everyone's weapons, character world, pirate ships, and everything else

. This is definitely the kind of game where you sink so much time into it that the game was completely worth getting.

drsypher · 2011-09-26, 04:07

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Originally Posted by Von Himmel

I've heard that duping your items are much easier in this game. Grinding exp in early post-game is harder than D3 thugh IMO.
...Though I've also heard that the requirement to open land of carnage is...hard in this game.

Duping is easy for now, yeah. It involves exploiting a glitch, which they'll probably patch soon. Duping in the same manner as D3, however, is much, much harder and more annoying. It took me ~10 hours to just set it up for myself. Unfortunately, the glitch wasn't discovered until after I spent all that time resetting.
And yeah, unlocking the LoC is a pain this time around... unless you get really, really lucky.

As for the game itself, I'm really loving it a LOT. Valvatorez is awesome as is the rest of the cast (though, I admit I'm not too fond of Fenrich), and I had a blast going through the main story and post game. Right now I'm doing all the grindy work trying to max out some characters (which I've never done in any of the other Disgaea games), but I'm still having fun. In fact, I'm having such a good time playing this game, I'm thinking about trying to go and get the platinum trophy, which I've never done before. That should be... fun.

Vegard Aune · 2011-09-26, 04:13

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Originally Posted by Von Himmel

I've heard that duping your items are much easier in this game.

More specifically, someone recently discovered a method of duping one's perfected items with next to no effort. (Well, beyond the efforts required to make a perfect item, obviously...)

Spoiler for Just in case you DON'T want to know it...:

Considering the insane amount of effort required to even create a perfect item in the first place, I must say this trick does sound incredibly appealing. Not that I'm anywhere near the point where I can make use of it just yet...

EdenB · 2011-09-26, 06:13

Item world question for anyone who knows. One of the trophies requirements is to get a....

Spoiler:

Also does anyone know how to unlock LoC? [Edit - This one was answered - thanks!]

Are pirates used for anything in this Disgaea (like previous one where you needed to steal the maps from them) or is it just a random occurrence to unlock your own pirates and make things more difficult? [Edit: I just found out, some pirates drop pirate ship parts at least]

I am liking this Disgaea's systems. I like the story too, but I think it could have been better.

2011-09-11, 21:36	Link #123
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	I give up...I had a small debate over this game's graphic. He said something along the line of "there's no difference between this and D3!" Seriously, how can one be so blind? @_@ __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2011-09-11, 23:27	Link #124
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Betcha his TV isn't bigger than 20 inches. __________________

2011-09-16, 12:03	Link #127
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	Had just finished chapter 1...Valvatorez is so cool! I mean, the story is still wacky as before, but I don't know He and Fenrich make it as if the whole story is serious and cool __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2011-09-23, 12:37	Link #128
Tong Many RPGs, Little Time Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BR Age: 32	Dont miss out guys, HD Asagi is now avaiable for free download Well, since monday actually... __________________

2011-09-25, 01:31	Link #129
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	Finally finished this game. Seriously, this one of the best Disgaea I've ever played since 1. All those new features are awesome, and I'm also glad that they decided to nerf a bit for grinding methods. It makes the game a bit more difficult but it also makes playtime longer. And also..all those stages! Are there even any normal stages in this game? Many of them require fiddling around with geoblock or many other instance where we need to grind much so that we can finish the stage I think this is also the most difficult Disgaea in terms of story stage difficulty btw, Valvatore and Artina ;__; Valvatore is probably the most..sane protagonist in disgaea series Well, I forgot that Adell is more sane than him (SARDIINEESSS) But I still think that he's the best protag with all his speeches and leadership abilities. __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2011-09-25, 08:06	Link #130
kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	Guh. I want to play too, but waiting for a cheap used one before buying XD. Well, the complaint I have with all NIS strategy game is the massive grinding needed to complete the game. Is it the same with this one?

2011-09-25, 08:34	Link #132
kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	Well, the problem is I'm a little obsessive compulsive in term of completing a game, that is I usually either beat the game completely with all the secret or end up not beating it at all. With the lack of time I have nowadays, I've been telling myself to just play it normally and leave the secret alone, but somehow I've been unsuccessful at it. Well, it's not like I will end up not buying it even if the game a little grindy anyway, I'm just curious whether it's still as grindy, or even more grindy than Disgaea 1 and 2.

2011-09-25, 13:29	Link #134
Tong Many RPGs, Little Time Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BR Age: 32	Equips>Level. Just you guys wait until I complete my semiPerfect Legendary Prinny Staff. __________________

2011-09-25, 20:58	Link #135
kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	But to level up your equip, you need to farm a lot too xD. In fact, that's the most time consuming part of nis games isn't it?

2011-09-25, 22:56	Link #136
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	I've heard that duping your items are much easier in this game. Grinding exp in early post-game is harder than D3 thugh IMO. ...Though I've also heard that the requirement to open land of carnage is...hard in this game. __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2011-09-25, 23:58	Link #137
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Can definitely sink a lot of times. Go around leveling up everyone's weapons, character world, pirate ships, and everything else . This is definitely the kind of game where you sink so much time into it that the game was completely worth getting. __________________ Anime-Evo

2011-09-26, 06:13	Link #140
EdenB Overlord Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England Age: 37	Item world question for anyone who knows. One of the trophies requirements is to get a.... Spoiler: level 300 item. How do you do this though, without being incredibly lucky on level spheres/mystery gates in a legendary item? I guess reserve pirating and resetting each time for the 15 level spheres is part of it, but that'd only give 75 extra levels. Taking the item boost path only seems to give 1 extra level per ten floors and I've only once gotten a level sphere or level-related mystery gate. Also does anyone know how to unlock LoC? [Edit - This one was answered - thanks!] Are pirates used for anything in this Disgaea (like previous one where you needed to steal the maps from them) or is it just a random occurrence to unlock your own pirates and make things more difficult? [Edit: I just found out, some pirates drop pirate ship parts at least] I am liking this Disgaea's systems. I like the story too, but I think it could have been better. Last edited by EdenB; 2011-09-26 at 09:18.