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Either way, not really the topic for this unless you want to argue the election is going to cause it. In which case those Mayans weren't good at calculating and predicting, but just god damned psychics. Quote:
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2012-11-06, 14:06 | Link #2185 |
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The best fix for the EC, if we didn't radically change the way State governments and the Federal government worked, is to simply make every State have 10 votes that are distributed to candidates based on the popular vote within that state. Your vote, regardless of your political leanings would have actual meaning then, when it comes to electing the next President.
This would allow for the following: 1) Your vote would count and be equal to everyone nationally, regardless of the population difference between states. The bigger question of whether it's fair or not for California to have as much weight in electing the President as Hawaii makes for great intellectual theater, but completely misses the point of the reality of our Republic, and is largely irrelevant. 2) Candidates would be forced to actually appeal to the entire country, rather than a minuscule portion of it.
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2012-11-06, 14:25 | Link #2186 |
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I know California and some other states are trying to set up a sort of instant win based on popular vote of all the states combined. Basically trying to form a coalition of states that add up to 270 electoral votes and then the combined popular vote of those states, whichever president wins that, gets all the 270 electoral votes.
If that happens we'd see a lot more campaigning here in CA anyway.
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2012-11-06, 14:26 | Link #2187 | |
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2012-11-06, 14:40 | Link #2189 |
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My potential big $ WINDFALL is about to be realized tonite
Here's with realistic, down-to-earth maps unlike the ones from HuffPuff's been smokin' & peddlin'. Mr. Romney holds a 10% lead among self-identified independents heading into election day, with nearly another 10% of independent voters undecided or planning on voting for third party candidates. Mr. Obama retakes a very slim lead in Ohio in the final Washington Dispatch Ohio Poll of Polls, reducing Mr. Romney's lead in the model to 8 electoral votes. Mitt Romney retains his leads in the states of Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Virginia. In addition to regaining a small lead in Ohio, President Obama maintains his shrinking leads in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, and also leads in Minnesota. Last edited by james0246; 2012-11-06 at 14:53. |
2012-11-06, 14:41 | Link #2190 |
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Dems see slight edge in race for Senate
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ace-for-senate
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2012-11-06, 15:00 | Link #2191 | |
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They are trying to steal the election.
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2012-11-06, 15:13 | Link #2193 | |
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Seriously, a lot of counties bought these pieces of junk and simply won't admit they wasted taxpayer money so badly. Other counties should probably have the officials tarred and feathered. Even if they were "bank quality ATM" designs (which they aren't, they're crap), the security community wouldn't sign off on these things. There's simply nothing that beats a physical audit trail. Not a month ago, I had an ATM not dispense cash, it docked my account, and the "investigation" claimed no errors were detected (A large red error message appeared on the screen at the time of the error -- so basically they're saying their error logging sucks). Now, that's an expensive ATM. Here in vote-land, we have crap software/database app running on an insecure operating system on an unsecured box. Pfffft.
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2012-11-06, 15:17 | Link #2195 | |
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It's seriously a sad joke.
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2012-11-06, 15:22 | Link #2197 |
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It happens. It happens quite often with such programs, especially in a widely differentiating quality of machines in a country the size of the US. I don't mind having suspicions, but jumping to conclusions is just stupidity in my view.
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2012-11-06, 15:35 | Link #2199 |
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I used an electronic device, I even recorded my "casting" just to be sure. I encountered no problems, calibration of otherwise, and I expect very few will.
Honestly, when it comes right down to it, it has always been ridiculously easy to rig the elections. Ballots can be thrown away or otherwise rewritten just as easily if not more so than messing with electronic ballots and badly designed machines. The fact that this hasn't happened (in any significant number) is honestly baffling... |
2012-11-06, 15:37 | Link #2200 |
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r/politics/ is displeased. Apparently CNN is also interested.
I would admit I'm skeptical though. It's much easier to mess with data on the back-end, away from prying eyes and open-source developers' outrage. Honestly this is probably one of those one-in-a-million malfunctions, something that should never happen, but if you're gonna use shitty proprietary machines... And that's why you print your ballots, anyway. Paper trail, paper bleeping trail everything. And for another reddit-borne "the GOP loves Democracy" posts: election worker fired for altering ballots. The worst thing? They can't do anything but throw out those compromised ballots. In other not news, Fox is still fishing for "voter fraud" and coming up short. Oh what was the disenfranchisement of thousands upon thousands for again? |
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