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Actually when I say I like anime the response is usually oh so you like Pokemon or you like that weird hentai stuff
edit: Last Sinner I think we just posted the exact same thing at the same time. But what Triple R says about anime being akin to foreign film is interesting because I do love foreign film and actually do think my love of anime is similar in comparison.
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And I thought anime has bad connotations in English too? I wish I had cohorts like yours, my peers think "anime" means Pokemon and Naruto and tentacle stuff. I always say "I like Japanese animation", they think I mean classy stuff like Miyazaki (in their minds). Or I just say "I like animation". |
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Fan connotation = anime = from Japan In Japan, I assume Miyazaki, Evangelion, Shin-Chan, Maruko, Doreamon, Conan = anime. Anything else = what otaku watch.
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"Cartoon" in France really refers to the short 1930s-1950s era animation such as looney tunes. In printed works the french make a distinction between a "comic", "bandes dessinés" and "manga". Even though there's similarities between the three mediums. The one fustration I have is that the general public tends to use "manga" instead of "animé" so I end up hearing people say "I watch mangas on TV" , it seems as if correcting them is a losing battle.
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edit: Apparently, there's also an anime channel in France called Mangas. That does not help either. Last edited by Shyni; 2013-02-17 at 03:50. |
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2013-02-17, 04:57 | Link #48 |
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I'll just copy/paste my previous comment in this merged thread -
If it feels like anime, exudes japanese cultural values, and is directed/produced by japanese, sure I'll call it anime. Where the frames are actually made is secondary. I find getting hung up on taxonomy or worrying whether one should like a series or not based on some labeling system to be as tiresome as someone who is stuck in one tiny rut of one kind of music they listen to.
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2013-02-17, 16:38 | Link #49 |
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To me "anime" is no more than a convenient shorthand for "animation produced primarily for a Japanese audience". I don't assign it a different rank to other types of animation, but there is a lot of it so it's useful to have a word to use when discussing it. There's a large community of western fans who use the term "anime" so why not go with the flow?
However when talking to non-fans I usually call it "Japanese animation" rather than "anime" or "animation produced primarily for a Japanese audience". |
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So, what now? Afro Samurai isn't anime because it wasn't made for the Japanese audience? Of course not. For any anime "definition" produced, there will always be an exception and inconsistency. This is a topic of art and culture, not science. If there isn't one, something will come along. On top of that, the question of "what is anime or not" is not a black-and-white topic. It never was and never will be, but people refuse to acknowledge that.
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Afro Samurai is a Japanese animation because it was done in Japan by a Japanese company, Gonzo.
Whether or not being Japanese animation makes it a "tru anime", I guess some people will differ. Again we have a problem, what is "anime"? Is it something made by Japanese companies? Is it something simply emulating a Japanese animation style? Does it have to be aimed at Japanese audiences? What is true anime? Now I will go play my geemus now. JRPGs ftw |
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I personally don't really think Afro Samurai as an anime because it wasn't really produced for a Japanese audience (I feel the same way about the Animatrix). But I guess you can say these are sort of on the fence series for me. I wouldn't really tell someone they are wrong if they did call these titles anime because I guess I can understand the other side of the argument.
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I find it interesting that each time I say the definitions are simply guidelines and there's a lot of smear (not a clear line), people respond as if I've drawn a hard line. There isn't an easy litmus test that will give a binary yes/no answer in all cases.
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As for 2006, that's when I was thinking: "Hey wait a minute, what can stop white people from making anime too?" My answer to that was: "Why not?"
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There are non-Japanese who speaking fluently living in Japan. If they made an anime I would still see it as anime. Now if I made something that looked like an anime I would not consider it anime.
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Okay, this is starting to turn into the "one drop of black blood equal black" kind of hard line - in other words, nonsense. Definitions aren't always "hard line". At some point, fog is just mist. I'm "white" but I'm 1/16 Apache - does that make me Apache? That's what I'm saying - that though we can make a general statement about any concept, there are likely to always be outliers and hybrids that don't quite fit in any simplistic labeling system
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