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DragonXX · 2015-11-19, 19:18

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Probably Hachiman and Kirito respectively.

Really Kirito and his supid Wish Fullfulment character which no personally but look I am awsome unless he get major Character devepolment in the book we can't read because last time I read SAO before Baka took it down he was the same.

Also what will the artuor do because we are getting closer to the end of the SAO Web Novel now that we are two book into the second half of the Alicization Arc.

OH&S · 2015-11-19, 20:09

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Originally Posted by ACertainStark

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I'm surprised Index managed to stay in the top 10 this year. This year (NT11-13) was a comparatively cold year for the franchise. Reception for those novels was far more mixed compared to NT8-10. Kamachi seems to struggle with keeping the momentum gained from the end of a long story arc. But if Index is 7th, what happened to Mahouka/Danmachi/NGNL/Overlord/Rokka?
<deadpan voice>Yeah. Misaka is 1st place again...</deadpan voice>
First time in a while that Index stays in the top 10 for 2 years in a row.
Othinus stays in the top 10!
NT11 didn't help Shokuhou?
Kamijou proving his consistent popularity again with 3rd place. Beaten only by anime-boosted characters (minus HachiMAN).
Also Accelerator didn't even have an appearance this year, just a namedrop. What's he doing there? No love for Hamazura?
Haimura placing second isn't too surprising either.

All in all, good placings for Index considering how the novels this year were.

ACertainStark · 2015-11-19, 21:55

NT11 was released a while ago so I'm not surprised it didn't do much even though its reception was quite good. Really not sure how Accelerator got there, lol.

Curious where they ended up on the overall ranking.

larethian · 2015-11-20, 01:14

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Originally Posted by Allen

Haha, that part was really good too. Can't wait to read the 3rd volume.

Ufufufufu

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Originally Posted by Hiss13

Index is falling from grace?

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Originally Posted by Kuroageha

I might get criticized but I stand that the 3 volumes before NT14 weren't that good to stand out enough.

Index is a thing of the past, I don't even follow it anymore for the last 3 years or so

I honestly don't believe there can be 'quality' with so many simultaneous titles and at such a fast schedule.
Anyway, I can't seem to follow long series these days. Other things demand my attention. Only Daiden is the exception, with sporadic releases, and I can read a volume in well under 3 hours normally.

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Originally Posted by Kunagisa

They really should just split the rankings and have the collaborators by themselves. They have too much weight and some of their choices are just too dubious, especially compared to the monitors (Eirun seriously?).

Whether I give it a chance or not, depends on what kind of comments appear in the mag

Chaos2Frozen · 2015-11-20, 01:52

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Originally Posted by DragonXX

Really Kirito and his supid Wish Fullfulment character which no personally but look I am awsome unless he get major Character devepolment in the book we can't read because last time I read SAO before Baka took it down he was the same.

Also what will the artuor do because we are getting closer to the end of the SAO Web Novel now that we are two book into the second half of the Alicization Arc.

Well despite what we may feel, the current 'in' thing right now is that particular type of wish fulfillment fantasy, it's partly why Mahouka, Overlord and Gate is as big as they are.

On hindsight, Kirito isn't really as bad.

EDIT: IMO that is

larethian · 2015-11-20, 02:11

This is not with reference to any specific title, but just saying this here for now, before we see massive derailing take place.

I think it's fine to comment on impressions and form own opinions based on either facts or just hearsay.

But be careful of making an impression and opinion sound like a factual assertion, especially about a series which one does not have intimate factual knowledge outside of anime, summaries, and spoilers. Interpretations of course may differ. But strong assertions may attracted unwanted derailing. Just saying

I feel it's apt to say this because this is a thread purely about light novels after all

Marcus H. · 2015-11-20, 02:16

We haven't even seen the full brunt of the isekai yet.

julioalqae · 2015-11-20, 02:22

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

We haven't even seen the full brunt of the isekai yet.

i'll fear that era....

, just need the blow up first, strangely mushoku isn't included yet.

Zefyris · 2015-11-20, 02:53

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Originally Posted by n0m@n

Looks like someone got their early christmas present

*Victory sign*

Seems like they really did it, and supported Alderamin as well? Very good job from them. That's for things like that I appreciate that ranking compared to the full popularity oriented ones.
That's the only time when what I like ranks well after all

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Originally Posted by larethian

Eirun is no. 1 for new series apparently. I'd be cautiously optimistic due to it being under MF.

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Originally Posted by Hell_ping

I have to admit, I feel twice shy about MF after ZnT...

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I am very confused how collaborators can throw a lot of their support to an MF bunko j book. Just seeing a book associated with that label makes me cautious. I wonder if there is something different about it.

To answer the three above, I feel the same about MF bunko J as you, but the last time they gave their support to a MF bunko J title (last year) , that was for Zetsushinkai no Solaris. And Zetsushinkai no Solaris is definitely VERY different from the usual MF bunko J title. And while I don't think it deserved as much support from the collaborator as it did (but then again imo last year was very very poor in new good works so they didn't had a lot of choice either ?) it's pretty fine, and I don't regret buying and reading it. Especially the second volume was quite promising compared to the first one (although they ranked it for the first volume last year, and it seems like they aren't supporting it this year even though the second volume was better. Well, this year has titles like shuumatsuna, so it can't be helped). So while I usually avoid MF bunko J titles, I would be cautious before rejecting something from that label if it's pushed by the collaborators. I think that on the contrary, when they find something very different in a specialised label like that, ti's also part of their job to attract the attention of the readers, basically saying "ey look, this one is different so don't avoid it just because of the specialized label".

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Originally Posted by Kunagisa

They really should just split the rankings and have the collaborators by themselves. They have too much weight and some of their choices are just too dubious, especially compared to the monitors (Eirun seriously?).

I disagree. Anyone can take the stats from the voters and make that ranking anyway since they release the different stats. A popularity only would be as boring as the character popularity polls here. Who would want that? We already have that kind of stuff everywhere anyway. The whole point of having the voters have their favourite work compete directly with the works pushed by the collaborators is that those works will get far more attention from the public by competing with the popular title directly than having a separate poll.
Also, I don't know about Eirun, but do you have any better new title to push than shuumatsuna in mind? If so that I'd like to hear it. Because AFAIK, they did very well. And pushing Alderamin is defintiely not wrong either.

SibylEnd · 2015-11-20, 03:27

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Originally Posted by OH&S

[*]Also Accelerator didn't even have an appearance this year, just a namedrop. What's he doing there? No love for Hamazura?

i'd really love for some hamazura representation; but it really seems he doesn't mix well with the japanese audience i.e. hamazura as a character seems to be the exact opposite of kirito and similarly the popularity seems to be polarised (i'll have to use the kirito comparision more often; it's actually pretty spot on)

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Originally Posted by DragonXX

Really Kirito and his supid Wish Fullfulment character which no personally but look I am awsome unless he get major Character devepolment in the book we can't read because last time I read SAO before Baka took it down he was the same.

i second that. speaking of gary stu; has tatsuya shibas rank shown up yet? he was close to being veto'd out of the top ten last year at 5th best male and 9th best character.

Lem · 2015-11-20, 05:01

Spoiler for Result:

Chaos2Frozen · 2015-11-20, 06:17

Wow, Yahari girls are just climbing up

larethian · 2015-11-20, 06:22

I normally dont comment on character rankings, but Irohasu, you did well.

Hell_ping · 2015-11-20, 06:24

Okay...here we go:

1. Oregairu
2. SAO
3. Negimaki (Alderamin)
4. Eirun Last Code
5. Shuumatsu
6. NGNL
7. Index
8. Danmachi
9. Saekano
10. Escape Speed.

11. Mahouka (again it's out of the top 10)
12. Haganai
13. A certain pilot series
14. Imouto Sae
15. Gamers
16. Kono Koi
17. Rokka (I had them as 6 and 7, not 16 and 17...)
18. DRRR
19. Prep boy
20. Warring bakery and the automaton waitress

Notables:

21. Grimgal
22. Seishun Buta (Sakurasou author)
24. Kino
25. Overlord
27. Accel World
28. Solaris
29. Re:Zero

32. Harem baseball
33. Henneko
36. SAO GGO
39. Altina
41. Hatamaou
42. Encore
43. Sky World
45. Baka Test
46. Haruhi isn't here
48. Aria
49. Dragnet
51. Clockwork
52. DAL
53. KagePro
54. Bokushinu
57. Nourin
58. Orihara Izaya (DRRR spinoff)
60. Zero Hajimeru

larethian · 2015-11-20, 06:30

Gamers in top 4 for new series it seems. Woohoo.
I'd bet Ireba is probably strong in comedy, but the word imouto and given how Haganai turned out, it's pushing me away.

Allen · 2015-11-20, 06:32

Spoiler for Top 60 LNs:

Spoiler for Top 30 Female:

Spoiler for Top 30 Male:

Spoiler for Top 57 Illustrators:

Hell_ping · 2015-11-20, 06:35

The Iroha votes knocked out Yukino, huh...?

tsunade666 · 2015-11-20, 06:37

Hidan no Aria is still in top 50!?

bangs head in the table...

Hell_ping · 2015-11-20, 06:39

From the other end:

1 Hachiman (Yahari)
2 Kirito (SAO)
3 Touma (Index)
4 Accelerator (Index)
5 Tatsuya (Mahouka)
6 Sora (NGNL)
7 Bell (DanMachi)
8 saika (Yahari)
9 Sakuta Azusagawa (Seishun Buta Yarou)
10 Sadao Maou (Hataraku Maou-sama!)

Overall poll
1 Hachiman
2 Mikoto
3 Kirito
4 Yukino
5 Touma
6 Accelerator
7 Iroha
8 Tatsuya
9 Yui and Asuna

tsunade666 · 2015-11-20, 06:47

wow, I didn't know that Hachiman is more popular than Mikoto-cult.

is Sakuta Azusagawa a trap? I can only vaguely saw a female? character there.

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OH&S Index III was a mistake Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 32	Quote Originally Posted by ACertainStark Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? I'm surprised Index managed to stay in the top 10 this year. This year (NT11-13) was a comparatively cold year for the franchise. Reception for those novels was far more mixed compared to NT8-10. Kamachi seems to struggle with keeping the momentum gained from the end of a long story arc. But if Index is 7th, what happened to Mahouka/Danmachi/NGNL/Overlord/Rokka? <deadpan voice>Yeah. Misaka is 1st place again...</deadpan voice> First time in a while that Index stays in the top 10 for 2 years in a row. Othinus stays in the top 10! NT11 didn't help Shokuhou? Kamijou proving his consistent popularity again with 3rd place. Beaten only by anime-boosted characters (minus HachiMAN). Also Accelerator didn't even have an appearance this year, just a namedrop. What's he doing there? No love for Hamazura? Haimura placing second isn't too surprising either. All in all, good placings for Index considering how the novels this year were. __________________

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Hell_ping 一刀繚乱 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: アッバス Age: 33	Okay...here we go: 1. Oregairu 2. SAO 3. Negimaki (Alderamin) 4. Eirun Last Code 5. Shuumatsu 6. NGNL 7. Index 8. Danmachi 9. Saekano 10. Escape Speed. 11. Mahouka (again it's out of the top 10) 12. Haganai 13. A certain pilot series 14. Imouto Sae 15. Gamers 16. Kono Koi 17. Rokka (I had them as 6 and 7, not 16 and 17...) 18. DRRR 19. Prep boy 20. Warring bakery and the automaton waitress Notables: 21. Grimgal 22. Seishun Buta (Sakurasou author) 24. Kino 25. Overlord 27. Accel World 28. Solaris 29. Re:Zero 32. Harem baseball 33. Henneko 36. SAO GGO 39. Altina 41. Hatamaou 42. Encore 43. Sky World 45. Baka Test 46. Haruhi isn't here 48. Aria 49. Dragnet 51. Clockwork 52. DAL 53. KagePro 54. Bokushinu 57. Nourin 58. Orihara Izaya (DRRR spinoff) 60. Zero Hajimeru __________________ I can still proceed on without reason.

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Allen メインヒロイン Join Date: Sep 2007	Spoiler for Top 60 LNs: 01. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatteiru. 02. Sword Art Online 03. Tenkyou no Alderamin 04. Eirun Last Code 05. Shuumatsu Nani Shitemasuka? Isogashii desuka? Sukutte Moratte Ii desuka? 06. No Game No Life 07. To Aru Majutsu no Index Series 08. Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darouka 09. Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata 10. Escape Speed 11. Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei 12. Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai 13. To Aru Hikuushi e no Seiyaku 14. Imouto Sae Ireba Ii. 15. Gamers! 16. Kono Koi to, Sono Mirai. 17. Rokka no Yuusha 18. Durarara!! Series 19. Shitayomi Danshi to Toukou Joshi 20. Tatakau Panya to Automaton Waitress 21. Hai to Gensou no Grimgar 22. Seishun Buta Series 23. Isekai Shokudou 24. Kino no Tabi 25. Overlord 26. Ryuuou no Oshigoto! 27. Accel World 28. Zetsushinkai no Solaris 29. Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu 30. Hakozoko no Elpis 31. Rokudenashi no Majutsu Koushi to Akashi Records 32. Koukyuu Rakuen Kyuujou - Harem League Baseball 33. Hentai Ouji to Waranai Neko 34. Ideologue! 35. Kusuriya no Hitorigoto 36. Sword Art Online Alternative Gun Gale Online 37. Waga Hero no Tame no Zettai Aku 38. Namapo Aniki 39. Haken no Kouki Altina 40. Dokusou Tanpen Series - Nozaki Mado Gekijou 41. Hataraku Maou-sama! 42. Sekai no Owari no Encore 43. Sky World 44. Wizard's Brain 45. Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu 46. Ore no Kyoushitsu ni Haruhi wa Inai 47. Rasen Jikuu no Labyrinth 48. Hidan no Aria 49. Cop Craft Dragnet Mirage Reloaded 50. Chuuko demo Koi ga Shitai! 51. Clockwork Planet 52. Date a Live 53. Kagerou Daze 54. Ashita, Boku wa Shinu, Kimi wa Ikikaeru 55. Hitotsu no Umi no Pallas Athena 56. Youkoso Zitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e 57. Nourin 58. Orihara Izaya to, Yuuyake wo 59. Uchuujin no Mura e Youkoso Shinomura Nougyou Koukou Tanteibu wa Mita! 60. Zero kara Hajimeru Mahou no Sho Spoiler for Top 30 Female: 01. Misaka Mikoto (Index) 02. Yunoshita Yukino (Oregairu) 03. Isshiki Iroha (Oregairu) 04. Yuigahama Yui (Oregairu) 04. Asuna (SAO) 06. Katou Megumi (Saekano) 07. Shiro (NGNL) 08. Shiba Miyuki (Mahouka) 09. Othinus (Index) 10. Index (Index) 11. Sinon (SAO) 12. Shiraki Oujo (Mitou Shoukan) 13. Aiz Wallenstein (Danmachi) 14. Hikigaya Komachi (Oregairu) 15. Alice Synthesis Thirty (SAO) 16. Misaki Shokuhou (Index) \|\| Hestia (Danmachi) 18. Sakurajima Mai (Seishun Buta Series) 19. Remu? (Re:Zero) 20. Yatorisino Igzem (Alderamin) 21. Kasumigaoka Utaha (Saekano) 22. Kani Nayuta (Ireba) 23. Izumi Sagiri (Eromanga) 24. Fremy Speeddraw (Rokka) 25. Sawamura Spencer Eriri (Saekano) \|\| Mikazuki Yozora (Haganai) \|\| Kuroyukihime (Accel World) 28. Yusa Emi (Hatamaou) \|\| Himeragi Yukina (Strike the Blood) 30. Seira Silvin? (Dress na Boku ga Yangotonaki Katagata no Katei Kyoushi-sama na Kudan) Spoiler for Top 30 Male: 01. Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu) 02. Kirito (SAO) 03. Kamijou Touma (Index) 04. Accelerator (Index) 05. Shiba Tatsuya (Mahouka) 06. Sora (NGNL) 07. Bell Cranell (Danmachi) 08. Totsuka Saika (Oregairu) 09. Azusagawa Sakuta (Seishun Buta) 10. Maou Sadao (Hatamaou) 11. Ikuta Sorouku (Alderamin) 12. Sakamaki Izayoi (Mondaiji) 13. Shiroyama Kyousuke (Mitou Shoukan) 14. Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord) 15. Kazuma (Konosuba) 16. Itsuka Shidou (DAL) 17. Tooyama Kinji (Hidan no Aria) 18. Glen Reedasu (Rokudenashi) \|\| Aniki (Namapo Aniki) 20. JIndai Shinobu (Zashiki Warashi) 21. Orihara Izaya (Drrr!!) \|\| Natsuki Subaru (Re:Zero) 23. Adlet Mayer (Rokka) 24. Araragi Koyomi (Monogatari) 25. Kawamura Hideo (Reisen) 26. Mitsuka Souji (Oretwin) 27. Aki Tomoya (Saekano) 28. Hans Humpty (Rokka) \|\| Eirun Bazatt (Eirun) 30. Hyoudou Issei (DxD) Spoiler for Top 57 Illustrators: 01. Ponkan⑧ (Oregairu) 02. Haimura Kiyotaka (Index) 03. adec (SAO) 04. Kantoku (Ireba, Henneko, Kowaseka) 05. Misaki Kurehito (Saekano) 06. Yasuda Suzuhito (Drrr!!, Danmachi) 07. Kamiya Yuu (NGNL) 08. Mishima Kurone (Konosuba, Rokudenashi) 09. Tsunako (DAL) 10. Ukai Saki (Saishinbu) 11. Shiromizakana (Aoi Haru no Subete) 12. Buriki (Haganai) 13. Kasuga Ayumu (OreTwin) 14. Misoguchi Keeji (Seishun Buta) 15. Kuroboshi Kouhaku (Kino no Tabi) 16. Kanzaki Hiro (Oremanga) 17. Mahaya (Zashiki Warashi) 18. 029 (Hatamaou) 19. Takeoka Miho (Kyuuketsuki ni Natta Kimi wa Eien no Ai wo Hajimeru) 20. Kobuishi (Aria) 21. Kippu (Nourin) 22. Nagi Ryou (HO) 23. Ishida Kana (Mahouka) 24. Miyama Zero (DxD, Nobuna) 25. Nardack (Kono Koi) 26. Ikawa Waki (Mitou Shoukan) 27. Furuno Haruaki (Encore, Furachi Doumei) 28. so-bin (Overlord) 29. BUNBUN (Chronicle Legion) 30. Ruroo (Machine Doll) 31. Kishida Mel (Kamimemo) 32. Tinkle (3P!) 33. Satoyasu (Horizon, Hexennacht) 34. Shirabi (Ryuuou, Tokyo Inroaded) \|\| Bania600 (Rokusan, Rail Wars) \|\| Gin (Escape Speed) 37. Hidari (Nijiiro Alien) \|\| Miyagi (Rokka) 39. Manyako (StB) \|\| Otsuka Shinichirou (Re:zero) \|\| Yamamoto Yamato (Kurenai, Owari no Seraph) 42. Hisasi (Netoge) 43. HIMA (AW) 44. Shiki Douji (FMP Another) \|\| karory (Dress na Boku ga(ry) 46. Tomose Shunsaku (Youzitsu) 47. Non (Adachi to Shimamura) 48. Shino (Clockwork Planet) 49. Itou Noiji (Kanae no Hoshi) \|\| Yuugen (Flame Oukoku) \|\| Sikorsky (Campione) 52. Saboten (Gamers!, Kuzukin) \|\| CUTEG (Gaworare) \|\| Haga Yui (BakaTest) 55. Magomago (Gusha no Junction) \|\| Shizuma Yoshinori (Zero kara Hajimeru Mahou no Sho) \|\| Eihi (Shitayomi Danshi(ry) Last edited by Allen; 2015-11-22 at 07:13. Reason: Add Top 30 Male/Top 30 Female/Typos/Top Illustrators

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ACertainStark お姉さん☆ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 31	NT11 was released a while ago so I'm not surprised it didn't do much even though its reception was quite good. Really not sure how Accelerator got there, lol. Curious where they ended up on the overall ranking.

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larethian Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	This is not with reference to any specific title, but just saying this here for now, before we see massive derailing take place. I think it's fine to comment on impressions and form own opinions based on either facts or just hearsay. But be careful of making an impression and opinion sound like a factual assertion, especially about a series which one does not have intimate factual knowledge outside of anime, summaries, and spoilers. Interpretations of course may differ. But strong assertions may attracted unwanted derailing. Just saying I feel it's apt to say this because this is a thread purely about light novels after all

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Lem Member Join Date: Nov 2015	Spoiler for Result:

2015-11-20, 06:22	Link #533
larethian Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	I normally dont comment on character rankings, but Irohasu, you did well.

2015-11-20, 06:30	Link #535
larethian Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	Gamers in top 4 for new series it seems. Woohoo. I'd bet Ireba is probably strong in comedy, but the word imouto and given how Haganai turned out, it's pushing me away.

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Hell_ping 一刀繚乱 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: アッバス Age: 33	The Iroha votes knocked out Yukino, huh...? __________________ I can still proceed on without reason.

2015-11-20, 06:37	Link #538
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	Hidan no Aria is still in top 50!? bangs head in the table... __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2015-11-20, 06:39	Link #539
Hell_ping 一刀繚乱 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: アッバス Age: 33	From the other end: 1 Hachiman (Yahari) 2 Kirito (SAO) 3 Touma (Index) 4 Accelerator (Index) 5 Tatsuya (Mahouka) 6 Sora (NGNL) 7 Bell (DanMachi) 8 saika (Yahari) 9 Sakuta Azusagawa (Seishun Buta Yarou) 10 Sadao Maou (Hataraku Maou-sama!) Overall poll 1 Hachiman 2 Mikoto 3 Kirito 4 Yukino 5 Touma 6 Accelerator 7 Iroha 8 Tatsuya 9 Yui and Asuna __________________ I can still proceed on without reason.

2015-11-20, 06:47	Link #540
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	wow, I didn't know that Hachiman is more popular than Mikoto-cult. is Sakuta Azusagawa a trap? I can only vaguely saw a female? character there. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero