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Infinite Zenith · 2018-12-22, 16:10

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Originally Posted by Kanon

Happiness is the key to getting the colors back, apparently. Although it only worked temporarily once again. Next week is the final episode already, doesn't feel like much has happened. Still better than Glasslip, at least.

This kicks the crap out of Glasslip. Themes are very clear, straight forwards and we’re not stuck with people trying to do potato analysis on what chickens mean

DragoonKain3 · 2018-12-23, 12:11

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Originally Posted by BBOvenGuy

Well, we did find out that the shopkeeper guy isn't Granddad. Unless Hitomi's been working on her poker face, anyway.

Ah what? 11:42 of the video had Hitomi having a look of realization once Kohaku introduced him as Ichiyanagi AND him actually speaking to her. Hitomi is kinda like a slowpoke in this regard, because she didn't know Kohaku is her baachan until Kohaku hugged her back in episode 4. Heck she showed a slight upgrade in her reaction in that she actually had one this episode, while she was pretty much Rei during her reunion with Kohaku way back when.

And once you think about it, grandpa wasn't present at the fireworks when she was sent back in time in the future. It would make sense grandpa is dead because he is noticeably older than Kohaku (maybe 5-10 years), making Mr Ichiyanagi much more likely to be her future husband.

But yeah, considering Kohaku is my waifu of the year, I'm SO jelly of shopkeeper guy!

Zangor17 · 2018-12-25, 03:21

Really hope that Yuito and Hitomi end up together somehow. The only time Hitomi's colors came back fully seemed to be with her feelings for Yuito. She was able to see the fireworks but everything else was still grey. I get the feeling that Hitomi's issues come from her mother leaving so she shut herself away and while happiness helps give color back its actually a combination of that and love from Yuito that makes a full recovery possible.

Her comment about the last firework being her love for Yuito is a pretty good sign. Also I loosely like to guess an episodes contents based on titles and the final episode definitely implies Hitomi will somehow regain her ability to see color so I'm hoping we get a happy end and not bittersweet.

Uribatake · 2018-12-25, 08:23

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Ah what? 11:42 of the video had Hitomi having a look of realization once Kohaku introduced him as Ichiyanagi AND him actually speaking to her. Hitomi is kinda like a slowpoke in this regard, because she didn't know Kohaku is her baachan until Kohaku hugged her back in episode 4. Heck she showed a slight upgrade in her reaction in that she actually had one this episode, while she was pretty much Rei during her reunion with Kohaku way back when.

And once you think about it, grandpa wasn't present at the fireworks when she was sent back in time in the future. It would make sense grandpa is dead because he is noticeably older than Kohaku (maybe 5-10 years), making Mr Ichiyanagi much more likely to be her future husband.

Also, they wouldn't cast a high-profile seiyuu like Junichi Suwabe to voice him if he weren't an important character.

Archon_Wing · 2018-12-26, 01:37

So in the end they basically tricked us into watching another school life anime with cute girls.....

Not that I'm complaining

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RDNexus · 2018-12-28, 15:21

That's it? It ended like that? Heck, how much it pisses me off, such open-ended finales

I tend to prefer when a story wraps itself up on all fronts. Like giving us an idea of how each character fared from then on and all of that. It also saddens me that Yuito ended up alone, as far as we know.
And...yep, I kinda knew it. It had to be the bookshop owner. It seems people were trying to guess who the grandpa could be. At least that much was given to us

And in case my post sounds spoilerific...sorry.

Kanon · 2018-12-28, 19:54

It was a closed loop, as I thought since the beginning. Too bad they didn't take it all the way.

The epilogue really sucked. Nothing on Hitomi's mother, nothing on the club members (besides Hitomi visiting what was most likely Yuito's grave), and Hitomi moved on really easily for a girl who wanted to stay in the past this badly. On the other hand, the bit at the beginning made it seem like Yuito never managed to get over her. This gives me really mixed feelings. But hey, at least we found out Hitomi's grandpa really was that guy. Lucky him, getting the best girl in the series.

The core story which was about Hitomi and Yuito bringing back "colors" into each other's lives by crossing time was good on paper, but the story meandered for quite some time and the ending was bad. I think this would have worked better as a movie.

serenade_beta · 2018-12-28, 23:57

Spoiler for final thoughts:

7/10

I get what they wanted to do and to a degree, they did it well, but the path to get there was pretty iffy.

First and the biggest problem is that Hitomi's colorblindness' reason is not well explained and non-existent, despite being the core of the entire story. Because of this, whenever they go "Wow, I can see color!", the scene isn't moving. The whole thing smells of "She sees color because I, the scriptwriter, wants her to! Ok, now she can't"
They should have spent more time showing how she became mentally ill enough to no longer be able to see color.

Second, they spent too much time doing other stuff. And then, in the last few episodes, things suddenly go on turbo. I felt that the two getting into a romance (which results in a book and no actual meeting in the future!) was too fast.

And that brings me along to another important problem.
The world setting itself is too... fluffy?
I mean, take an example like Iriya no Sora. Yeah, the aliens are part of the big problem, but the story isn't about them, so it is okay that the story did not close out the story about the aliens.
But here? We have magic. A lot of the story revolves around using magic. That only certain people can use. And can send people into the past. AND NO ONE GIVES A CRAP! Heck, even Hitomi thinks that being colorblind would get her more ostracized than being able to use magic. Sure, maybe if you are a leper, but you are giving us drama about how people would think worse of you because you are colorblind? Why? The story doesn't cover why she became so, so it isn't convincing.
And no one seems to care she came from the future until she started getting sucked into another dimension.
Oh, and then we have the "another dimension" that Yuito gets sucked into. What?

So yeah, I get what they wanted to do, but I think they should have kinda... paved the road a more carefully.
I know this isn't a compliment, but at least this was more understandable than Glasslip.

Oh, and the OP is good, very good.

PS: Also, despite the amount of time that has passed, the school looks way too similar to how it was in the past.

Infinite Zenith · 2018-12-29, 00:23

Okay, then, masters of the mystic arts: present the Iroduku ending that you would have preferred to see, in as much or little detail as you would prefer.

Lukes YGO & WS on YT · 2018-12-29, 01:12

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BBOvenGuy · 2018-12-29, 02:18

After the comments that had been posted here, I felt a bit of dread when the finale started, but it was just fine. And I absolutely loved the book Yuito wrote. Not the conventional way to wrap up a relationship, but it was perfect for the two of them.

This show did have its problems. The love-triangle episode in particular was a paint-by-numbers affair that could have been used in a thousand other shows with almost no changes. But in the end, they got where they wanted to go and said what they wanted to say. I'll take it.

Nachtwandler · 2018-12-29, 03:22

I am fine with this ending, though, it would have been so much better if they showed what happen to other characters a bit. Besides the obvious twists with a book and who Kohaku married two thy showed us absolutely nothing. It may be delibaratelly but I would have prefer to see at least tiny bit of other club members futures.

RDNexus · 2018-12-29, 03:52

Same here. I can kinda deduce the staff did it this way to prevent backlashes from the audience, but such a lackluster epilogue is also deserving of some complaint

Kanon · 2018-12-29, 08:26

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Originally Posted by Infinite Zenith

Okay, then, masters of the mystic arts: present the Iroduku ending that you would have preferred to see, in as much or little detail as you would prefer.

The sarcastic tone doesn't motivate me, but I'll indulge you.

Showing us a montage of what the rest of the cast had been doing for the past sixty years would have done wonders. The best way to do that would have been to have Hitomi look through the photobooks and maybe even enter some of the pictures. They spent several episodes on a love triangle, and we never even found out if Asagi and Shou ended up together. Of course, Yuito is the character that matters the most, and besides him writing a picture book and dying at some point, we know nothing. Did he ever find happiness, like Hitomi did? The scene I was talking about implies he ultimately didn't. But there's no way to know for sure because we were barely shown anything.

And of course there is Hitomi's mother. Hitomi said she wanted to find her and face her with Kohaku, but we got nothing. She was the entire reason Hitomi couldn't see colors, and they just leave it at that.

I'm aware they couldn't have fit all that in a single episode, but it wouldn't have been a problem if they hadn't wasted time on pointless stuff.

wuhugm · 2018-12-29, 09:12

Bad Ending

Boy and girl didn't get together

Hitomi's mom dead

The future of the friends unknown

Only Kohaku's husband was revealed to be the bookstore guy

1/10

bones · 2018-12-29, 09:29

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

Bad Ending

Boy and girl didn't get together

Hitomi's mom dead

The future of the friends unknown

Only Kohaku's husband was revealed to be the bookstore guy

1/10

C'mon we all know Yuuto is the one who died. He went the way of a traditional artist - dying alone and penniless.

Ulin · 2018-12-29, 09:31

I enjoyed the show very much. I have only two complaints, the first one the only thing I don't like about the ending is that we don't know anything about the rest of them in the future. It would be fine if one of the girls in the school told her something like "my grandad told me to send you his regards" without knowing the reason, or maybe some photographs of them in the album instead of only showing the old ones.

The other thing is that I think that the love triangle is kind of... I don't know, it doesn't add anything to the show and it would be equally good without it. The show is not about the romance, it is about how two people help each other out of a bad moment in their lives.

I would have liked they would end together, since I really like totally happy endings, but in this case I can accept that.

On another note, best opening of the season by far

8/10 for me

Top Sergeant · 2018-12-29, 10:17

I liked that Grandmother Kohaku's magic would not complete the transfer until Hitomi and Yuito truly expressed their feelings. Hitomi needed that to grow.

Great art, good characters, nice story. I am glad I watched this show.

SeaDoor · 2018-12-29, 14:15

Well... that was underwhelming.

It's too bad because it seemed there were plenty of interesting elements in this story but they never did much with them. The magic, time travel and grandmother hanging out with her granddaughter were never really integrated into a story which was just left to be a pedestrian tale of teen angst. Not worth a re-watch IMO.

2018-12-28, 19:54	Link #148
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	It was a closed loop, as I thought since the beginning. Too bad they didn't take it all the way. The epilogue really sucked. Nothing on Hitomi's mother, nothing on the club members (besides Hitomi visiting what was most likely Yuito's grave), and Hitomi moved on really easily for a girl who wanted to stay in the past this badly. On the other hand, the bit at the beginning made it seem like Yuito never managed to get over her. This gives me really mixed feelings. But hey, at least we found out Hitomi's grandpa really was that guy. Lucky him, getting the best girl in the series. The core story which was about Hitomi and Yuito bringing back "colors" into each other's lives by crossing time was good on paper, but the story meandered for quite some time and the ending was bad. I think this would have worked better as a movie. __________________

2018-12-28, 23:57	Link #149
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for final thoughts: 7/10 I get what they wanted to do and to a degree, they did it well, but the path to get there was pretty iffy. First and the biggest problem is that Hitomi's colorblindness' reason is not well explained and non-existent, despite being the core of the entire story. Because of this, whenever they go "Wow, I can see color!", the scene isn't moving. The whole thing smells of "She sees color because I, the scriptwriter, wants her to! Ok, now she can't" They should have spent more time showing how she became mentally ill enough to no longer be able to see color. Second, they spent too much time doing other stuff. And then, in the last few episodes, things suddenly go on turbo. I felt that the two getting into a romance (which results in a book and no actual meeting in the future!) was too fast. And that brings me along to another important problem. The world setting itself is too... fluffy? I mean, take an example like Iriya no Sora. Yeah, the aliens are part of the big problem, but the story isn't about them, so it is okay that the story did not close out the story about the aliens. But here? We have magic. A lot of the story revolves around using magic. That only certain people can use. And can send people into the past. AND NO ONE GIVES A CRAP! Heck, even Hitomi thinks that being colorblind would get her more ostracized than being able to use magic. Sure, maybe if you are a leper, but you are giving us drama about how people would think worse of you because you are colorblind? Why? The story doesn't cover why she became so, so it isn't convincing. And no one seems to care she came from the future until she started getting sucked into another dimension. Oh, and then we have the "another dimension" that Yuito gets sucked into. What? So yeah, I get what they wanted to do, but I think they should have kinda... paved the road a more carefully. I know this isn't a compliment, but at least this was more understandable than Glasslip. Oh, and the OP is good, very good. PS: Also, despite the amount of time that has passed, the school looks way too similar to how it was in the past. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

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Infinite Zenith Operation sneaky sneaks IT Support Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Hic et ubique	Okay, then, masters of the mystic arts: present the Iroduku ending that you would have preferred to see, in as much or little detail as you would prefer. __________________

2018-12-29, 01:12	Link #151
Lukes YGO & WS on YT Naracchi & Saracchi Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Australia Age: 40	Spoiler for Episode 13 Comments/Feedback & Series Score: I didn't even last 2 minutes before the tears came, I knew what was about to happen but the powerful emotional scene won out in the end. I had a feeling something might happen when Yuito & Hitomi said a lackluster goodbye to begin with but glad they got their true feelings across. Was kinda hoping that we would see the others in the future for a reunion but it wasn't to be. I enjoyed this, it was slow at times but I thought it really started and ended well, that character development of Hitomi was great to watch. 7/10

2018-12-29, 03:22	Link #153
Nachtwandler Yurifag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine / Barcelona, Spain Age: 36	I am fine with this ending, though, it would have been so much better if they showed what happen to other characters a bit. Besides the obvious twists with a book and who Kohaku married two thy showed us absolutely nothing. It may be delibaratelly but I would have prefer to see at least tiny bit of other club members futures. __________________ F/GO: 828 004 124 My Anime list My VN list

2018-12-25, 03:21	Link #143
Zangor17 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014	Really hope that Yuito and Hitomi end up together somehow. The only time Hitomi's colors came back fully seemed to be with her feelings for Yuito. She was able to see the fireworks but everything else was still grey. I get the feeling that Hitomi's issues come from her mother leaving so she shut herself away and while happiness helps give color back its actually a combination of that and love from Yuito that makes a full recovery possible. Her comment about the last firework being her love for Yuito is a pretty good sign. Also I loosely like to guess an episodes contents based on titles and the final episode definitely implies Hitomi will somehow regain her ability to see color so I'm hoping we get a happy end and not bittersweet.

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2018-12-28, 15:21	Link #147
RDNexus Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Age: 36	That's it? It ended like that? Heck, how much it pisses me off, such open-ended finales I tend to prefer when a story wraps itself up on all fronts. Like giving us an idea of how each character fared from then on and all of that. It also saddens me that Yuito ended up alone, as far as we know. And...yep, I kinda knew it. It had to be the bookshop owner. It seems people were trying to guess who the grandpa could be. At least that much was given to us And in case my post sounds spoilerific...sorry.

2018-12-29, 02:18	Link #152
BBOvenGuy Math Ninja Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura County CA Age: 59	After the comments that had been posted here, I felt a bit of dread when the finale started, but it was just fine. And I absolutely loved the book Yuito wrote. Not the conventional way to wrap up a relationship, but it was perfect for the two of them. This show did have its problems. The love-triangle episode in particular was a paint-by-numbers affair that could have been used in a thousand other shows with almost no changes. But in the end, they got where they wanted to go and said what they wanted to say. I'll take it.

2018-12-29, 03:52	Link #154
RDNexus Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Age: 36	Same here. I can kinda deduce the staff did it this way to prevent backlashes from the audience, but such a lackluster epilogue is also deserving of some complaint

2018-12-29, 09:12	Link #156
wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	Bad Ending Boy and girl didn't get together Hitomi's mom dead The future of the friends unknown Only Kohaku's husband was revealed to be the bookstore guy 1/10 __________________ ------------------------------------------ [SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine All My Threads

2018-12-29, 09:31	Link #158
Ulin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Spain	I enjoyed the show very much. I have only two complaints, the first one the only thing I don't like about the ending is that we don't know anything about the rest of them in the future. It would be fine if one of the girls in the school told her something like "my grandad told me to send you his regards" without knowing the reason, or maybe some photographs of them in the album instead of only showing the old ones. The other thing is that I think that the love triangle is kind of... I don't know, it doesn't add anything to the show and it would be equally good without it. The show is not about the romance, it is about how two people help each other out of a bad moment in their lives. I would have liked they would end together, since I really like totally happy endings, but in this case I can accept that. On another note, best opening of the season by far 8/10 for me

2018-12-29, 10:17	Link #159
Top Sergeant Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: By that dark and bloody river called Ohio. Age: 59	I liked that Grandmother Kohaku's magic would not complete the transfer until Hitomi and Yuito truly expressed their feelings. Hitomi needed that to grow. Great art, good characters, nice story. I am glad I watched this show. __________________ The sword that takes life gives life. -Japanese proverb

2018-12-29, 14:15	Link #160
SeaDoor Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeastern US	Well... that was underwhelming. It's too bad because it seemed there were plenty of interesting elements in this story but they never did much with them. The magic, time travel and grandmother hanging out with her granddaughter were never really integrated into a story which was just left to be a pedestrian tale of teen angst. Not worth a re-watch IMO.