2007-04-22, 18:19 | Link #403 |
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Well after ripping through the first 3 episodes I gotta say its been a pretty crazy and enjoyable ride so far. Not much of a plot so far but the characters are pretty fun and the fact that I think yoko has one helluva nice character design does not bias my opinion of the show in anyway, shape, or form....
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2007-04-22, 22:40 | Link #404 |
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Sorry but I'm just not feeling this new episode (4). Once again I fail to understand Kobayashi's appeal. I hated his 4C shorts, I couldn't get further than an episode into Beck and Paradise Kiss, and his episode of Kemonozume was easily the worst, far worse than the DR-Movie eps. And this Gurren-Lagann episode is hideous -- those closeups make me want to die. I don't mind when things are off model, but his redesigns are completely disconnected from the action and voice acting. The action and flow is disjointed and mistimed... it looks like sh-t, it moves like sh-t, and I'd wager the individual cuts that look the best has little to do with him as an AD. Kobayashi is the poor man's Yuasa. Yes, I said it. He sucks. Kudos to Imaishi/Gainax for allowing an individualistic animator to strut his stuff, but still.
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2007-04-23, 00:52 | Link #406 | |
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2007-04-23, 02:54 | Link #408 |
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From what I can tell its been a different animation director every episode. Osamu Kobayashi doesn't seem to be returning in episodes 5 or 6. I haven't seen 4 yet, but having seen Super Bestial Machine God Dancougar (the 80's one not the new one, good mecha show, but frequently racked with the most inconsistent and lazy animation I have ever seen in mylife. The Dancougar literally looks completely different in every single shot and a lot of the time they don't even bother to add detail to the unit, so it just kind of looks like die-cast metal without any painting.) so I don't think any degree of poor animation will ever phase me again.
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2007-04-23, 08:23 | Link #409 |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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The animation directior is different but all episodes but this one, which has a completely different style to enhance the particular mood, had in-house Gainax ADs. If you didn't liked it... don't worry, everything until at least 13 won't be by Kobayashi again. Just watch the preview for 5th, the character models looks really FLCLish... more so than what the series has been so far.
And te2rx, I wouldn’t really compare Kobayashi to Yuasa as both are extremely different in style, thematic and execution. While both share an inherent honesty in their styles the ultimate feeling of unorthodoxy both connote are completely different. Animation-wise it’s really impossible to find real similarities between the rough, sketch-like and mostly rock-culture inspired movement of Kobayashi and the much more dreamlike, nuanced and psychedelic depictions of Yuasa. I can’t even find any relationship between the anti-climatic juvenile feelings behind the first’s directorial attempts and Yuasa’s more mature management of drama and humanity. |
2007-04-23, 08:59 | Link #410 |
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I agree the connection is weak at best. I was only reaching for another personality who has done wildly off-model stuff, and that Hakkenden episode with Yuasa & Ohira came to mind, and also his 4C shorts to Yuasa's weirder moments. But beyond the superficial, there's really no one to liken him to.
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2007-04-23, 13:38 | Link #411 |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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I'm way behind the rest of you, but I just thought I'd drop in to say I finally watched episode one, after thinking I wouldn't bother (not my thing)...and I get it. Really well done. I see why the number of threads on 2channel is zooming up so quickly. And I think Konishi Katsuyuki is terrific here.
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2007-04-23, 18:32 | Link #413 |
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Summary from episode 5 added to the official Gainax Web-Page:
Spoiler for Episode 5 Synopsis:
The staff is like I had said Hiroaki Tomita as director and story-boarder, Shoji Saeki as script writer and Kikuko Sadagata and Satoru something as animation directors. Source: http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools |
2007-04-23, 18:50 | Link #414 | |
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2007-04-23, 18:58 | Link #415 | |
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2007-04-23, 20:46 | Link #416 |
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Location: Kobe, Japan
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Well, I'm quite anxious to see 4 now, given the controversy. I liked 3 a real lot - not quite as manic, but the plot was more coherent and the characters moved along quite a bit. I loved Kamina's "that part of you will end up saving me" line towards the end...
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2007-04-23, 22:18 | Link #418 |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: The Abyss
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Havent seen ep. four yet myself either, sadly I have limits... I've gotten to like watching anime in japanese w/subs, but I still refuse to watch something where i have nearly zero idea of whats being said, my brain complains too much.
I'm glad to hear that 4's style wont cont. since it seems to bite so bad. I never minded that single episode of FLCL where various directors had a go at it, but shifting out of the established entirely is bunk. Gurren-Lagann works, so dont fix it :P Thinking on the style seen in 1~3 though I remembered a PS2 game that had a similar feel to it. "Samurai Legend Musashi", the OP to it had a much more edgy/comic book look to it but the high speed action was there as well. If only Musashi hadnt had such a horrid voice actor and had his old hair he might have passed off more like Kamina lol. I am curious though; In the OP when everyone is walking along in Gurren & Lagann, the Gurren has a big thing attached to its back with a little flag. Is this just a storage container or does it serve some larger purpose? |
2007-04-23, 22:26 | Link #419 | |
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2007-04-23, 22:41 | Link #420 | |
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Apparently episode 4's "art style" is causing more of a ruckus than imagined - taken from the Canned Dogs site:
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