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It's on the anime website: Tohka Working and Yoshino Highschool. Sounds delicious.
Tohka Working
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delicious indeed
Xero8420
2013-06-20, 02:54
Tohka Working
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delicious indeed
Is it the SS ones? O.O
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tm902541
2013-06-20, 02:55
BTW, remember that we discussed about the original Kurumi and her 'clones' are very similar to the MISAKA network from the Raildex (Railgen/Index) series? It was concerning of the part about the memories of her clones can be assimilated into the original's mind. Well, I'm under an impression that the more Kurumi hangs out with Shidou, the more likely she'll lose focus regardless. Thus, she would slowly losing her focus on her goal as long as her mind is slowly clouded by her memories with Shidou piece by piece via her clones.
It seems it's not the same network MISAKA.
In vol 7 to find whereabouts of Tokha.
Kurumi potential to create clones for information. And while Kurumi "clones" said Kurumi information by talking to Kurumi "original".
Xero8420
2013-06-20, 02:59
It seems it's not the same network MISAKA.
In vol 7 to find whereabouts of Tokha.
Kurumi potential to create clones for information. And while Kurumi "clones" said Kurumi information by talking to Kurumi "original".
Though I'm not convinced that she still can assimilate something from her 'clones'. Who knew? :confused:
holybell84
2013-06-20, 03:15
Is it the SS ones? O.O
http://data.whicdn.com/images/62557783/large.jpg
Nope, that's from Data A Live encore
Xero8420
2013-06-20, 03:23
Nope, that's from Data A Live encore
My bad. I confused with the titles. :p
Say, when will Baka-Tsuki update it?
My bad. I confused with the titles. :p
Say, when will Baka-Tsuki update it?
better not ask those kinds of question..you'll piss off the tlor XD
RapidPotential
2013-06-20, 08:14
It's on the anime website: Tohka Working and Yoshino Highschool. Sounds delicious.
I always thought of her as a middle-schooler. :heh:
Tohka Working
http://date-a-live-anime.com/common/images/dvd/dvd02_pkg03.jpg
delicious indeed
Hell yeah Tohka in Usagi outfit
darker than black
2013-06-20, 12:32
In the mikku lily ark volume 6 Did shido turn into a girl or was he just dressing up as one? Im really confused
Shinji103
2013-06-20, 12:34
Did he turn into a girl or was he just dressing up as one? Im really confusedDressing up. Miku hates men due to a bad event in her past, so in order to get around that and seal her powers......... :heh:
darker than black
2013-06-20, 12:38
Did shido turn into a girl or was disguised as one? on volume6
Shinji103
2013-06-20, 12:42
Did shido turn into a girl or was disguised as one? on volume6*points above*
sky black swordman
2013-06-20, 17:30
Tohka Working
http://date-a-live-anime.com/common/images/dvd/dvd02_pkg03.jpg
delicious indeed
Bunny girl, Tohka!:love:
This illustration reminds me why Tohka is the best and my favorite! :D
Yami no Ou
2013-06-20, 20:56
Tohka in bunny outfit is just too gorgeous indeed!
Shinji103
2013-06-21, 12:32
2nd anime season confirmed:2nd season confirmed, apparently, pending info
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miku arc \o/ hope they dont skip too much from this one..looking forward to the VA for them
Shinji103
2013-06-21, 12:45
miku arc \o/ hope they dont skip too much from this one..looking forward to the VA for themThere shouldn't be much skipping, since they're clearly going for just three volumes this time (5-7) as many of us predicted.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-21, 12:50
well the yamai girls show us why men love twins so much very very sexy and the silver haired girl is surprisingly hot
Well I have to say its not surprising we're getting a second season lol. But also since I haven't been on for awhile thanks riki for finishing up v5 and starting v6 I'm glad we still have a translator for this!
omegasereon
2013-06-21, 13:46
Yay new season = yamai twins and miku!
Miraluka
2013-06-21, 15:01
Remember guys several pages ago when I told to all of you about the last episode showing cames of other characters for a second season?
blitz1/2
2013-06-21, 15:14
Just made this up in the peak of the moment of being bored....
T: Grail-kun!
GK: What is it Touka chan?
T: Shidou is not paying attention to me and keeps going on to save other spirits, he promised to get me something to eat as well.
GK: It can't be helped Touka-chan....
Eternal Friendship device (throws knife)
(eh?)
GK: Just cut Shidou up and eat him, then you will be with him forever and you won't be hungry.
Remember guys several pages ago when I told to all of you about the last episode showing cames of other characters for a second season?
I also remember you saying that the anime will end with the 3rd volume and completely dismissed what I said about Kotori being on the artworks, yeah.
Since the production for the second season just went "green-lit," and it took the first season about a year to air after that was "green-lit," I wonder how long it will take this time.
Miraluka
2013-06-21, 20:24
I also remember you saying that the anime will end with the 3rd volume and completely dismissed what I said about Kotori being on the artworks, yeah.
Since the production for the second season just went "green-lit," and it took the first season about a year to air after that was "green-lit," I wonder how long it will take this time.
I said it would be ideal if it did with the third volume. But it did with the 4th to not left a cliffhanger which wasn't a bad idea.
Didn't expected they would sacrifice Vol.2 in order to do that, though.
maybe this time they will have it out faster..does have a PV now..though if ova is in dec and if the yamai lunchtime is there..they should have s2 this fall..though thats just wishfullly hoping lol
I said it would be ideal if it did with the third volume. But it did with the 4th to not left a cliffhanger which wasn't a bad idea.
Didn't expected they would sacrifice Vol.2 in order to do that, though.
To be fair, Vol.2 is probably the weakest out of the first three arcs- So even if it had an extra episode, I don't think it would've fared very well anyways.
haseo0408
2013-06-21, 21:27
Excellent! A second season is in the horizon, I can´t wait for the Yamai twins and Miku. Thank you Kami-sama. :)
RapidPotential
2013-06-21, 21:35
To be fair, Vol.2 is probably the weakest out of the first three arcs- So even if it had an extra episode, I don't think it would've fared very well anyways.
Agreed. I remember stating such on both this thread and the anime thread that the arc covering Yoshino's was the weakest. In hindsight, they did the right thing.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-21, 21:52
Agreed. I remember stating such on both this thread and the anime thread that the arc covering Yoshino's was the weakest. In hindsight, they did the right thing.
the second arc may be the weakest but arguably the most boring one was tohka's original capture. She fails in many comparasions to most of the girls
1. She doesn't remember her original name.
2. She's the only one who appeared from an actual spacequake on screen
3. She is a dimwit on many levels
4. She's very much a lost puppy character because she was originally trying to kill shidou and only seemed to be close because he was her first friend and the first person to not try to kill her.
Yes Yoshino is very similar to tohka in many ways except she understands herself more and she has more depth actually she reminded me of Juvia of FT in a lot of ways. Lonely needed a friend causes rain all the time. but in that arc there was actually some depth. All tohka needed was a friend shidou did a lot more to help yoshino then he did tohka
Trung-t-rung
2013-06-21, 22:19
Somehow, I have a feeling that Tohka Dark mode will become a gag similar to Saber Alter. Maybe if Tohka didn't eat anything in xx hours, she will turn dark mode.
tm902541
2013-06-21, 22:36
Tohka have reverse form
Maybe I also hope that the spirit will also appear this mode
What if Yamai Sisters and Yoshino or Kurumi will turn reverse :heh:
kurumi don't need a reverse form ^^"
a it would be a pity see yoshino in a state where she is forced to enter into such mode...
How do dem change tohka into a dark tohka? they rape her or something? o.O
How do dem change tohka into a dark tohka? they rape her or something? o.O
no
tohka just got desperate from the thought of having shidou dying when he went to her rescue, she lose control of herself and became crazy.
Ok, with this I'm done. For real this time. Probably. Maybe. Eh.
This is purposely one of the bigger mysteries of the series. She has been stalking him since before he met her during the first day of high school. There are hints that it may have something to do with the fire years ago or even before then. As for her emotions, a) she isn't as emotionless as she looks and b) I would say she did have a lot more trauma then pretty much all the rest of the cast as she saw her parents rather brutally murdered in front of her face when she was 12.
Origami - Saw her parents die
Tohka - Hunted for her entire conscious existence
Yoshino - emotionally scared to the point of creating a second personality to cope
Kurumi - Killed countless times, currently trying to erase herself from existence to save all the other spirits
Kotori - Turned into a monster, lives with it sealed inside her
Yes, Origami had it bad. But the spirits had it worse. And Origami has a whole world of humans she could reach out to. The spirits only have Shidou.
*snip*
Moved below
I'll ask again did you read volume 4 chapter 7?
OK, this was my bad. I did go back and read it again, and it does give much needed back ground on Origami.
Both groups do the same level of "cock blocking", about the only reason Origami isn't farther ahead is Shidou is a tad bit dense on picking up signs she is interested in him. case in point is him missing all the signs during his visit to her house.
My point wasn't how much this happens for each person. My point is that Shidou doesn't view Origami as more than a classmate. And this is after reading the LN hospital scene. Subtle they ain't. He tried to leave several times, she had to guilt-trip him into doing everything, and he ran as soon as he could.
Even the other spirits Shidou isn't romantically attracted to are closer to him than she is.
This is completely incorrect. Again it seems your view is more based on the anime then the novels as he does try to talk her out of fighting the spirits nearly every time they talk, again something the anime cut a lot of, but due to her anger only slowly seems to make any headway on. Just as shidou sees karumi as what would have happens if he hadn't saved Touka , he sees Mana as what Origami could become. this is even reinforced in Ep 12 of the anime.
But he's there for the spirits, not her. Every time, he's there to help the beings she wants to kill.
I will point out that her irrational hatred was born from watching her home burn, having her parents murdered in front of her and then getting the hell beat out of her when she was 12. That added with the AST and DEM propaganda basically means to her Spirit = Evil and given nearly every Spirit we see the AST deal with starts as hostile to them. Regardless Origami isn't the leader of the AST unit so none of those events were directly her dissuasion.
Er, they attacked Tohka, they attacked Yoshino, Kurumi became psycho from being killed too much, Kotori saved Origami and Mana's life, the AST started shooting at Miku in the middle of a concert. Were the twins hostile?
refer back to point 5 for this.
OK, but when has Shidou put his life on the line for her and only her?
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I moved this down because this is probably my biggest problem with Origami, the AST, and the whole series. Giant piece of fridge logic that burns.
Being a good antagonist doesn't mean they have to be a true threat to the protagonist and she was never what I would classify as the primary antagonist of any of the novels but volume 4 and the novels are quite clear that the AST are more there to annoy the spirits to leave than to be able to kill them.
OK, think about that. Forget Origami and the spirits. Separate from our argument, think about the logic of that tactic. They attack an entity they cannot defeat in hopes of making it leave. That is suicidal. It's like throwing pebbles at a bear.
Also, even if they leave they come back. Which causes more space quakes later. At first this was understandable, since it seems like they had no choice and they don't know the spirits have no choice to return. But Tohka. Goes. To. Origami's. School They know a spirit is here. They know she didn't cause a space quake arriving. Why in God's name did they not investigate that!?!?!? I'm not saying drop the antagonism suddenly, but get Origami to effing ask Shidou "Hey, what the fuck, man?" at least once. Hell, get them to try to kidnap Shidou or something. Don' just continue with business as usual when there is even a slight chance that a way to actually render a spirit genuinely harmless is right under their nose!
IT. DOESN'T. MAKE. SENSE!
What is the Kurumi Star Festival?
Shinji103
2013-06-22, 02:11
What is the Kurumi Star Festival?Kurumi's chapter in the Date A Live Encore collection of side stories. A summary was posted on one of the recent pages here.
hmm btw is it me or..when shido manifest an angel his eye color changes..well atleast in vol 7 colored pic it did
Ok, with this I'm done. For real this time. Probably. Maybe. Eh.
My point wasn't how much this happens for each person. My point is that Shidou doesn't view Origami as more than a classmate. And this is after reading the LN hospital scene. Subtle they ain't. He tried to leave several times, she had to guilt-trip him into doing everything, and he ran as soon as he could.
Because he was afraid he wouldn't be able to control himself as nearly all his thoughts were, "that sounded realy erotic that can't be right". And the fact he is on a first name basis with her does show he is closer then just a classmate
But he's there for the spirits, not her. Every time, he's there to help the beings she wants to kill.
No he has tried to be there for her and at the time she chose her revenge rather then him. It isn't untill after the events of volume 4 that she starts to turn away from that path.
"I beg you. Even if it's little, even if it is a little it's okay. If Yoshino appears from the other world this time, try talking to her— Just like what you said, there might be evil Spirits out there. But, Tohka and Yoshino— I don't know how am I going to put this into words but…they are really...good people…! Those girls are really kind, they are so kind that it is rare to find them even in human society……!"
"………"
Without saying anything, Origami was staring at Shidou in a very calm state.
It was quiet. But he could not feel that cold and mysterious air anymore; it was a mysterious gaze instead.
"………"
—Ah, I see. Shidou finally realized it.
He knew that Origami had no authority to make left and right decisions for the AST.
But even so, the reason for him to specially take on the risk of leakage of information just so that he can talk to Origami about this matter—it is because he just had to do it.
Of course, the biggest reason was to save Yoshino, but that was not the only reason he had.
That was, he felt that he finally understood it by experiencing it directly.
"I—see, I………"
Once again, Shidou faced his eyes towards Origami.
"I……I think I want to do something about Yoshino— I want to save her, I also want you to accept Tohka too. However, on the same level as those wishes. I don't want you, Tobiichi—yes, I don't want you to kill all those...good people…!"
Er, they attacked Tohka, they attacked Yoshino, Kurumi became psycho from being killed too much, Kotori saved Origami and Mana's life, the AST started shooting at Miku in the middle of a concert. Were the twins hostile?
first it has never been hinted that Kurumi became psycho from her deaths in fact it seems she is useing her deaths to drive Mana psycho. the AST had nothing to do with the Twins that was DEM. And I don't see how any of this refutes what I said She has an irrational hatred born from watching her home burn, having her parents murdered in front of her and then getting the hell beat out of her when she was 12 along with the added AST and DEM propaganda that Spirit = Evil. nor does it change she is not in command.
OK, but when has Shidou put his life on the line for her and only her?
Just because he hasn't had the need to doesn't mean he wouldn't and while it wasn't just for her he did so at the end of volume 4.
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I moved this down because this is probably my biggest problem with Origami, the AST, and the whole series. Giant piece of fridge logic that burns.
OK, think about that. Forget Origami and the spirits. Separate from our argument, think about the logic of that tactic. They attack an entity they cannot defeat in hopes of making it leave. That is suicidal. It's like throwing pebbles at a bear.
And yet thats what they do. They are Damage control pure and simple. They are like biteing ants painful and annoying enough that the Spirits go away. and its not like the ATS knows they are pulled there against their will since they don't talk to them. Origami only found out because Shidou told her.
"Good work."
There, wearing the same wiring suit as Origami, stood a woman in her mid-20s with her hand on her hip.
Captain Kusakabe Ryouko. The commanding officer of the AST that Origami belonged to.
"You did great driving off that Spirit by yourself. ...I gave a strict lecture to Tomonara and Kagaya. What were they thinking, retreating and leaving the Spirit to Origami alone."
"I didn't drive it away."
Origami replied, and Ryouko shrugged.
"Well, I've gotta report it like that to the top. If we don't show some results the budget's gonna drop."
"..."
"C'mon, don't make such a face. I'm praising you after all. In this situation where the ace's seat is still empty, you're making a great effort. Also, if you weren't there, the number of additional people who'd have died isn't just one or two."
Fuuuu, she exhaled her breath.
"But hey,"
Ryouko sharpened her gaze, grabbed Origami's head and turned it towards herself.
"You went a bit overboard. —Do you want to die so badly?"
"..."
With her sharp gaze still fixated on Origami, Ryouko continued.
"Do you really understand what kind of opponent you're fighting here? That's a monster for god's sake. A hurricane with intelligence. —Do you understand? Within your abilities, suppress the damage to the minimum, within your abilities, make it lost as early as possible. That is our job. Don't pointlessly expose yourself to danger."
"—That's wrong."
Origami replied while looking Ryouko straight in the eyes, and once again opened her lips slightly.
"To defeat the Spirits, that is the duty of the AST."
"..."
Ryouko frowned.
As the captain of the AST, she was supposed to have understood the name of the Anti Spirit Team much more so than Origami.
Because she understood, she stated.
—We can't manage to do any more than suppress the damage.
However, while acknowledging that, Origami repeated once again.
"—I will, defeat, the Spirits."
"..."
Ryouko let out a sigh, and removed her hands from Origami's head.
"...I wasn't planning on hearing what you personally think. Think what you want. —However, if it seems like you'll go against a command while on the battlefield, you'll be removed from the team."
Also, even if they leave they come back. Which causes more space quakes later. At first this was understandable, since it seems like they had no choice and they don't know the spirits have no choice to return. But Tohka. Goes. To. Origami's. School They know a spirit is here. They know she didn't cause a space quake arriving. Why in God's name did they not investigate that!?!?!? I'm not saying drop the antagonism suddenly, but get Origami to effing ask Shidou "Hey, what the fuck, man?" at least once. Hell, get them to try to kidnap Shidou or something. Don' just continue with business as usual when there is even a slight chance that a way to actually render a spirit genuinely harmless is right under their nose!
IT. DOESN'T. MAKE. SENSE!
Maybe it is because noone knows how that happened. Shidou made a big deal about it and Tohka had no clue. And the AST is under strict orders not to atack Touka because as far as the AST investagation has turned up she is not only human but one of the citizens that they have to protect. She also did ask Shidou about things, twice, once in Volume 2 and then in volume 5.
[Princess].
From that code-name, Origami twitched her eyebrows a little.
Not knowing the exact details of what she went through but the Spirit that held that code-name was now, the human girl— Yatogami Tohka, who was attending the same high school as Origami.
Of course, Origami having confirmed Tohka’s existence, had informed Ryouko about it.
But for some reason they couldn't detect a Spirit reading coming from her, thus the assault permission wasn't granted.
Asking for the impossible and then having her family register investigated, they were unable to find anything suspicious.
At the very least, at this time —although Origami was extremely dissatisfied— she was a Japanese citizen, an existence that was Origami's duty to protect.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-22, 05:41
i'll say this once and not say it again this is anime and using logic in anime is foolish because well its illogical. Yes Origami hates tohka but first because of the spirits but now because of the fact she's her rival. Origami has a messed up past we all know this if you thought a spirit killed your parents you'd hate them anyway. As for the organizations nobody truly understands the spirits so everybody acts wonky
sky black swordman
2013-06-22, 06:17
Because he was afraid he wouldn't be able to control himself as nearly all his thoughts were, "that sounded realy erotic that can't be right". And the fact he is on a first name basis with her does show he is closer then just a classmate Hmm, I think Shidou has referred to Origami as his friend. Also didn't she make him call her by her first name ? IIRC, it was in exchange for her getting off of him. And in volume 3, when he greeted her by using last name, she gave him a look and he immediately corrected himself and greeted her by her first name.
hmm btw is it me or..when shido manifest an angel his eye color changes..well atleast in vol 7 colored pic it did
It did, it seems using a spirit powers would change the irises of the eyes of the user.. I believe there was a discussion about the eyes of the spirits at the past pages..
It seems the anime will get a season 2.... not to say it'll reach until Miku's arc...... having a complicated feeling of it.. more on my side wasn't really satisfied with the adaptation.....
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-22, 08:02
Let me ask u guys this and answer honestly. If it was tohka or kurumi or even yoshino who was doing the stuff that Origami was would you guys be complaining about it.
darkofficer
2013-06-22, 08:09
No not really
But I wonder why tohka is the only spirit that has to be around shidou all the time
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-22, 08:58
No not really
But I wonder why tohka is the only spirit that has to be around shidou all the time
that's my point if u can appreciate the spirits doing it allow origami to also its how these harems work.
As for why tohka is the only spirit that has to be around shidou its pretty simple its because of the lost puppy affect I mentioned earlier. Tohka believed everybody was trying to kill her and then somebody who wouldn't try to kill her appeared in fact he was kind to her. Once she found that she acted like a puppy simply wanting him to be that existence its the same reason that tohka went berserk when shidou died in the first episode and why she likely went black tohka because to tohka shidou is her entire world and living without him is impossible.
holybell84
2013-06-22, 09:19
that's my point if u can appreciate the spirits doing it allow origami to also its how these harems work.
As for why tohka is the only spirit that has to be around shidou its pretty simple its because of the lost puppy affect I mentioned earlier. Tohka believed everybody was trying to kill her and then somebody who wouldn't try to kill her appeared in fact he was kind to her. Once she found that she acted like a puppy simply wanting him to be that existence its the same reason that tohka went berserk when shidou died in the first episode and why she likely went black tohka because to tohka shidou is her entire world and living without him is impossible.
The bonus to Shidou is that Tohka is easily the most beautiful girl in existance
Algester
2013-06-22, 12:50
hmm btw is it me or..when shido manifest an angel his eye color changes..well atleast in vol 7 colored pic it did
yes when he summons angels his eyes changes that of similar to a spirit
The bonus to Shidou is that Tohka is easily the most beautiful girl in existance
control that airheadedness of hers then yeah pretty much she is Shidou's consolation prize for his troubles...
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-22, 13:16
The bonus to Shidou is that Tohka is easily the most beautiful girl in existance
not quite i'd say miku gives her a run for that and the yamai twins are tasty too but that's my opinion. The downside to that very bonus is the reality that if she catches shidou kissing somebody else or if he does something against her she has power that makes gasai yuno look like a toddler. Keep in mind tohka said herself that without shidou she would be just like kurumi which doesn't bode well for shidou.
Shinji103
2013-06-22, 13:26
The bonus to Shidou is that Tohka is easily the most beautiful girl in existanceDebateable.
Kurumi.
Kotori. (she's fine right now, but when she grows out of being jailbait.... ;))
Yamai Twins.
Not that Tohka's not hawt, but she has plenty of rivals. :D
holybell84
2013-06-22, 13:37
Debateable.
Kurumi.
Kotori. (she's fine right now, but when she grows out of being jailbait.... ;))
Yamai Twins.
Not that Tohka's not hawt, but she has plenty of rivals. :D
They need to show everything 5 years later, and make sure Kotori's and Shidou's parents are off to another trip.
When they come back, they shall meet their grand child =D
shadow1296
2013-06-22, 13:38
They need to show everything 5 years later, and make sure Kotori's and Shidou's parents are off to another trip.
When they come back, they shall meet their grand child =D
don't you mean grandchildren:heh:
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-22, 13:49
They need to show everything 5 years later, and make sure Kotori's and Shidou's parents are off to another trip.
When they come back, they shall meet their grand child =D
question is whose the mother he may be doing all this kissing but he's still yuuki rito without the falling. The guy gets nervous with even simple eroticism. Ever notice that the shows with the most Doujinshi's are the ones where you beg the character to nail somebody but u know he's too chicken to pick one girl. He's a classic harem MC has girls doesn't want one.
Debateable.
Kurumi.
Kotori. (she's fine right now, but when she grows out of being jailbait.... ;))
Yamai Twins.
Not that Tohka's not hawt, but she has plenty of rivals. :D
dem tsunako art are hawt..end :D
Because he was afraid he wouldn't be able to control himself as nearly all his thoughts were, "that sounded realy erotic that can't be right". And the fact he is on a first name basis with her does show he is closer then just a classmate
He was forced to do that. Just like he is always forced to be around her. Has he ever voluntarily spent time with her?
No he has tried to be there for her and at the time she chose her revenge rather then him. It isn't untill after the events of volume 4 that she starts to turn away from that path.
"I beg you. Even if it's little, even if it is a little it's okay. If Yoshino appears from the other world this time, try talking to her— Just like what you said, there might be evil Spirits out there. But, Tohka and Yoshino— I don't know how am I going to put this into words but…they are really...good people…! Those girls are really kind, they are so kind that it is rare to find them even in human society……!"
"………"
Without saying anything, Origami was staring at Shidou in a very calm state.
It was quiet. But he could not feel that cold and mysterious air anymore; it was a mysterious gaze instead.
"………"
—Ah, I see. Shidou finally realized it.
He knew that Origami had no authority to make left and right decisions for the AST.
But even so, the reason for him to specially take on the risk of leakage of information just so that he can talk to Origami about this matter—it is because he just had to do it.
Of course, the biggest reason was to save Yoshino, but that was not the only reason he had.
That was, he felt that he finally understood it by experiencing it directly.
"I—see, I………"
Once again, Shidou faced his eyes towards Origami.
"I……I think I want to do something about Yoshino— I want to save her, I also want you to accept Tohka too. However, on the same level as those wishes. I don't want you, Tobiichi—yes, I don't want you to kill all those...good people…!"
Er, that quote is something I should be using against you, not the other way around. He is there for Yoshino. He is begging with Origami on Yoshino's behalf. And his only wish is for her not to kill the people he is there to defend. It's still for the spirits sake not hers.
first it has never been hinted that Kurumi became psycho from her deaths in fact it seems she is useing her deaths to drive Mana psycho. the AST had nothing to do with the Twins that was DEM. And I don't see how any of this refutes what I said She has an irrational hatred born from watching her home burn, having her parents murdered in front of her and then getting the hell beat out of her when she was 12 along with the added AST and DEM propaganda that Spirit = Evil. nor does it change she is not in command.
You said that every spirit they encountered acted hostile to them. None of them except Kurumi has. And from what has been spoiled from future volumes her whole motivation is based around preventing the other spirits from experiencing her pain.
Just because he hasn't had the need to doesn't mean he wouldn't and while it wasn't just for her he did so at the end of volume 4.
Ok, fine. He probably would. But he hasn't yet.
And yet thats what they do. They are Damage control pure and simple. They are like biteing ants painful and annoying enough that the Spirits go away. and its not like the ATS knows they are pulled there against their will since they don't talk to them. Origami only found out because Shidou told her.
"Good work."
There, wearing the same wiring suit as Origami, stood a woman in her mid-20s with her hand on her hip.
Captain Kusakabe Ryouko. The commanding officer of the AST that Origami belonged to.
"You did great driving off that Spirit by yourself. ...I gave a strict lecture to Tomonara and Kagaya. What were they thinking, retreating and leaving the Spirit to Origami alone."
"I didn't drive it away."
Origami replied, and Ryouko shrugged.
"Well, I've gotta report it like that to the top. If we don't show some results the budget's gonna drop."
"..."
"C'mon, don't make such a face. I'm praising you after all. In this situation where the ace's seat is still empty, you're making a great effort. Also, if you weren't there, the number of additional people who'd have died isn't just one or two."
Fuuuu, she exhaled her breath.
"But hey,"
Ryouko sharpened her gaze, grabbed Origami's head and turned it towards herself.
"You went a bit overboard. —Do you want to die so badly?"
"..."
With her sharp gaze still fixated on Origami, Ryouko continued.
"Do you really understand what kind of opponent you're fighting here? That's a monster for god's sake. A hurricane with intelligence. —Do you understand? Within your abilities, suppress the damage to the minimum, within your abilities, make it lost as early as possible. That is our job. Don't pointlessly expose yourself to danger."
"—That's wrong."
Origami replied while looking Ryouko straight in the eyes, and once again opened her lips slightly.
"To defeat the Spirits, that is the duty of the AST."
"..."
Ryouko frowned.
As the captain of the AST, she was supposed to have understood the name of the Anti Spirit Team much more so than Origami.
Because she understood, she stated.
—We can't manage to do any more than suppress the damage.
However, while acknowledging that, Origami repeated once again.
"—I will, defeat, the Spirits."
"..."
Ryouko let out a sigh, and removed her hands from Origami's head.
"...I wasn't planning on hearing what you personally think. Think what you want. —However, if it seems like you'll go against a command while on the battlefield, you'll be removed from the team."
Maybe it is because noone knows how that happened. Shidou made a big deal about it and Tohka had no clue. And the AST is under strict orders not to atack Touka because as far as the AST investagation has turned up she is not only human but one of the citizens that they have to protect. She also did ask Shidou about things, twice, once in Volume 2 and then in volume 5.
[Princess].
From that code-name, Origami twitched her eyebrows a little.
Not knowing the exact details of what she went through but the Spirit that held that code-name was now, the human girl— Yatogami Tohka, who was attending the same high school as Origami.
Of course, Origami having confirmed Tohka’s existence, had informed Ryouko about it.
But for some reason they couldn't detect a Spirit reading coming from her, thus the assault permission wasn't granted.
Asking for the impossible and then having her family register investigated, they were unable to find anything suspicious.
At the very least, at this time —although Origami was extremely dissatisfied— she was a Japanese citizen, an existence that was Origami's duty to protect.
My point was how nonsensical this part is. Her commander openly states "We have no way to actually win, we just fire till it leaves." Yet for some reason Tohka not only appeared without a space quake, but is apparently no longer a spirit. They should have investigated that. Again, this is a complaint about the series, not Origami, since it's just a plot hole plain and simple.
However, my biggest complaint about her can be summed up as this. Between her and any of the spirits, who would Shidou choose to protect? The spirit or Origami? He would always, always choose the spirit.
Here's how I see it.
Tohka
First Impression:The first two times he met Tohka, she almost killed him.
Reaction: Jumps headlong into the situation to save her.
Yoshino
First Impression: She almost killed him and endangered his relationship with Tohka, then went berserk over a toy rabbit
Reaction: Get skinned alive by hail storm to return rabbit
Kurumi
First Impression: Nice at first, then psycho crazy bitch who tries to kill everyone
Reaction: Jump in front of Kamehameha level blast to save her, without token immortality
Origami
First impression: She tried to save him from Tohka
Reaction: Ignore her to save the spirits
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-22, 15:57
X you and kagato gotta stop this stuff shidou saves everyone he's a nice guy ha that's what happens
Miraluka
2013-06-22, 16:22
Stop it all of you guys. Each person has a different perception about things and people.
endarion88
2013-06-22, 16:39
They need to show everything 5 years later, and make sure Kotori's and Shidou's parents are off to another trip.
When they come back, they shall meet their grand child =D
we will see this in the game endings, i have high expectation from grown up kotori
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-22, 17:06
Stop it all of you guys. Each person has a different perception about things and people.
agreed lets just all agree that we love the series and let that be the end of it
He was forced to do that. Just like he is always forced to be around her. Has he ever voluntarily spent time with her?
He seems to enjoy having lunch with her at least enough that he is concerned when she doesn't in volume 3. voluntarily tried to patch things up in volume 5 ( she did take it a bit far when he said he wanted to go someplace with her alone and took him into the girls restroom). And nothing has shown he doesn't like spending time with her when she is not going comically overboard
Er, that quote is something I should be using against you, not the other way around. He is there for Yoshino. He is begging with Origami on Yoshino's behalf. And his only wish is for her not to kill the people he is there to defend. It's still for the spirits sake not hers.
You are ignoring that it flat out states He is also doing it for her. It is the exact same thing he says about Mana. I understand you don't like her and thats fine but you are trying to use a double standard.
You said that every spirit they encountered acted hostile to them. None of them except Kurumi has. And from what has been spoiled from future volumes her whole motivation is based around preventing the other spirits from experiencing her pain.
No i said nearly all of the Spirits the AST has delt with have been hostile. Least you forget Tohka was trying to kill Shidou during their first 2 encounters and she was a bit kill happy during the date. The very fact that Yoshino is an oddity in that she doesn't fight with the AST pretty much implies that.
Very little of Kurumi's motivation has been spoiled all we know for sure is her goal it to kill the first Spirit preventing the other Spirits from existing and that Phantom calles it surprisingly kind. Nothing spoiled has directly stated that she is trying to spare them pain.
Ok, fine. He probably would. But he hasn't yet.
He already has come close at the end of volume 4 he was talking her down for just as much of her sake as it was to save his sister. And it will likely happen.
My point was how nonsensical this part is. Her commander openly states "We have no way to actually win, we just fire till it leaves." Yet for some reason Tohka not only appeared without a space quake, but is apparently no longer a spirit. They should have investigated that. Again, this is a complaint about the series, not Origami, since it's just a plot hole plain and simple.
They did and what it turned up was that Tohka was a normal person with a complete background history so their hands are tied because the higher ups are blocking them. She does try to get info out of Shidou but he is evasive because his work is secret.
[Princess].
From that code-name, Origami twitched her eyebrows a little.
Not knowing the exact details of what she went through but the Spirit that held that code-name was now, the human girl— Yatogami Tohka, who was attending the same high school as Origami.
Of course, Origami having confirmed Tohka’s existence, had informed Ryouko about it.
But for some reason they couldn't detect a Spirit reading coming from her, thus the assault permission wasn't granted.
Asking for the impossible and then having her family register investigated, they were unable to find anything suspicious.
At the very least, at this time —although Origami was extremely dissatisfied— she was a Japanese citizen, an existence that was Origami's duty to protect.
However, my biggest complaint about her can be summed up as this. Between her and any of the spirits, who would Shidou choose to protect? The spirit or Origami? He would always, always choose the spirit.
Here's how I see it.
Tohka
First Impression:The first two times he met Tohka, she almost killed him.
Reaction: Jumps headlong into the situation to save her.
Yoshino
First Impression: She almost killed him and endangered his relationship with Tohka, then went berserk over a toy rabbit
Reaction: Get skinned alive by hail storm to return rabbit
Kurumi
First Impression: Nice at first, then psycho crazy bitch who tries to kill everyone
Reaction: Jump in front of Kamehameha level blast to save her, without token immortality
Origami
First impression: She tried to save him from Tohka
Reaction: Ignore her to save the spirits
He has not ignored her. He just has problems dealing with her because she either comes on way too strong of completely baffles him. And aside from her break down in volume 4, which he did help he through, she hasn't had known issues that she needed to be saved from unlike the Spirits.
PS he did also choose to save her by facing off unarmed against a rampaging force of nature who's powers were overloading and wanted to release them at Origami using an untested ability.
I can't control [The Last SwordHalvanhelev] anymore...! We have to release it somewhere...!"
"Where is that somewhere!?"
"——"
Without saying anything, Tohka looked towards the ground.
Following her gaze, he noticed Origami lying there, seeming like she might die any moment.
"...! Tohka, you...! D-Don't shoot there!"
"T-Then what are you telling me to do! It's already reached the critical state!"
Even while saying this, the sword that Tohka held was shooting streams of black lightning into the surroundings. Like machine gun fire, the continuous barrage gouged out the earth.
Xfire i can still swallow the fact you hate origami, but Never i repeat NEVER say a character is useless in a novel. Any character put into a novel is important, that implies to the sub-characters. that is what makes the series itself.
Seriously this argument is way out if hand everybody has there view so lets just move on please although I do agree with @riki
*snip*
Ok, I give. I still hate her, but my fingers just tried to mount a revolt against my brain for all this typing.
However, after all that debate (which I did enjoy, thanks for that) I think I figured out my main problem with Origami.
It isn't her character, but the way Shidou reacts to it. She's a stalker, she has a backstory fairly similar to him (childhood home in flames), she is on the other side of the major conflict, etc, etc. And Shidou just ignores all of this for the most part. She has never been the main focus of an arc. The closest she had was Kotori's arc.
The author gave her a lot of good stuff to develop and then... didn't. If this changes, so will my opinion. Until them, she's still just "Cock Block Girl" to me.
After watching the last eps of DAL, I now have a rough idea of vol4, and it look like 2nd season would cover vol5-7.
Should I still wait for vol 4 and read something else or skip it and start reading vol5 ?
Cockblock or whatever, Origami does a good job bringing in the grimdark that this series desperately needs despite being completely incompetent.
Mystic_Vegetto
2013-06-23, 11:16
After watching the last eps of DAL, I now have a rough idea of vol4, and it look like 2nd season would cover vol5-7.
Should I still wait for vol 4 and read something else or skip it and start reading vol5 ?
I would say read Volume 5 for the time being. I read it last week and thought it was good.
RapidPotential
2013-06-23, 11:18
Origami is the first real introduction of any sort of open antagonism toward the Spirits and this is exactly the angle that probably needs to be explored even further - despite the fact that none of them (the AST) can yet kill a Spirit who actually gets serious and unleashes their full powers. At least, this sort of seriousness can help the story develop in a slight more grim route, but I hope that if this happens, we will not lose the more light-hearted appeal of the series.
The events of Volume 7 has already hinted that there is more to the plot than it seems on the surface. I would say that the series has improved as it went on but hasn't explored much of its premise at this point; it's something I can enjoy nonetheless.
After watching the last eps of DAL, I now have a rough idea of vol4, and it look like 2nd season would cover vol5-7.
Should I still wait for vol 4 and read something else or skip it and start reading vol5 ?
I'm still going to read v4 when it gets translated cause the anime might have skipped some vital parts but idk. V5 is good and an interesting development
Shinji103
2013-06-23, 11:40
Yeah unfortunately there were a number of things that season 1 simply didn't have the time allocation to cover, and there is in fact a very significant part of volume 4 that they just couldn't fit in to the 23 minutes of episode 12. (I bet they'll put it in the volume 4 DVD/BD though) With the stuff they had to leave out it's not a pacing issue really; they just couldn't fit everything into those twelve 23 minutes episodes. So you should read volume 4 whenever Baka Tsuki finished it.
What's up with S2's pic with Shido holding Tohka's sword and having yellowish Spirit eyes?? Is he really a spirit?
I don't remember seeing that in the near-exact pic in the novel, the one with Miku behind him.
shadow1296
2013-06-23, 20:01
What's up with S2's pic with Shido holding Tohka's sword and having yellowish Spirit eyes?? Is he really a spirit?
I don't remember seeing that in the near-exact pic in the novel, the one with Miku behind him.
its not near exact it is exact the only thing that is missing is miku
also shidou's eyes change to be like that whenever he uses one of the more powerful spirit powers like sandalphon and yoshino's ice
yep it's in volume 7 and he does have the yellow spirit eyes. he seems to have them in volume 5 as well. likely it has to do with him manifesting the powers.
@XFire
Fair enough Although I disagree about her not being developed. It's just her arc moves a lot slower since her issue can't just be solved by kissing Shidou, unlike Tohka (needed a friend and not to be attacked all the time), Yoshino (afraid of her powers), Kotori (powers were driving her crazy), and the twins (felt only one of them could hold the power and the other would disappear). He never "fixed" Kurumi and we still don't have a clear Idea what her Issues really are. And Miku also seems to have more complex issues but since all I have on her is second hand info I'm not going to speculate as I never fully trust summaries since there is always missing context.
holybell84
2013-06-23, 20:14
What's up with S2's pic with Shido holding Tohka's sword and having yellowish Spirit eyes?? Is he really a spirit?
I don't remember seeing that in the near-exact pic in the novel, the one with Miku behind him.
Er... what are you talking about. That scene is one of the color pics in vol 7
yep it's in volume 7 and he does have the yellow spirit eyes. he seems to have them in volume 5 as well. likely it has to do with him manifesting the powers.
@XFire
Fair enough Although I disagree about her not being developed. It's just her arc moves a lot slower since her issue can't just be solved by kissing Shidou, unlike Tohka (needed a friend and not to be attacked all the time), Yoshino (afraid of her powers), Kotori (powers were driving her crazy), and the twins (felt only one of them could hold the power and the other would disappear). He never "fixed" Kurumi and we still don't have a clear Idea what her Issues really are. And Miku also seems to have more complex issues but since all I have on her is second hand info I'm not going to speculate as I never fully trust summaries since there is always missing context.
Actually, my complaint wasn't so much about resolution as much as focus. Vol 1 is Tohka, Vol 2 is Yoshino, Vol 3 is Kurumi, Vol 4 is Kotori, etc. Origami doesn't have her own volume yet.
Actually, my complaint wasn't so much about resolution as much as focus. Vol 1 is Tohka, Vol 2 is Yoshino, Vol 3 is Kurumi, Vol 4 is Kotori, etc. Origami doesn't have her own volume yet.
Well to be a fair she does have some major sub plots in books 4 and 5. And I think there is one in 6 as well. Plus she is the lead in Date a Strike / Date AST Like. I Really wish someone would translate it as it seems to have a lot of info on DEM in it.
Oh well I believe someone said volume 9 was going to be her focus novel.
Well to be a fair she does have some major sub plots in books 4 and 5. And I think there is one in 6 as well. Plus she is the lead in Date a Strike / Date AST Like. I Really wish someone would translate it as it seems to have a lot of info on DEM in it.
Oh well I believe someone said volume 9 was going to be her focus novel.
yea vol 9 would be about her..
date ast like is too wordy LOL
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-24, 09:52
Well I just watched over the kurumi arc again and maybe its the anime's reactions but I've got a very interesting thought. Kurumi herself is not really evil. YES she's done some horrible things but the more you look at them in a backwards way they can all be explained.
1. She's killed thousands of people.
1a. She's killed those people in order to gain power and maintain her life.
2. She's attacked mana many times
2a. Self defense on kurumi's part
3. She's tried to eat Shidou.
3a. She needs to eat humans to gain power and believes eating shidou is the best way to gain a lot of power since she knows about his abilities.
But a final possibility has occurred to me. When kurumi was introduced she knew all about shidou and presumably his information. She also likely knew about his ability to take the spirits power. We know kurumi is gaining power to attack the 1st spirit for some reason.
Before people say yes kurumi is evil think about the two critical things we DONT KNOW YET.
1st. Why is shidou so special and since im betting that phantom didn't give shidou the power to steal spirit power im assuming he had it naturally the question is why he has it and how he got it.
2nd. We don't know why kurumi is obsessed with the 1st spirit so until that stuff is known simply making kurumi out as evil is a bit rash.
After all to use another example (and by no means am I comparing the two). Everyone believed itachi was evil but when you heard his motivation almost everyone went from hating the guy to pitying him.
^ Also if Kurumi did managed to travel back in time to fight and beat the 1st spirit, it just mean the people she killed never happen because of the butterfly effect.
I believe Kurumi believe that as well that why she continue killing people just to go back in time and change history.
Xero8420
2013-06-25, 05:43
^ Also if Kurumi did managed to travel back in time to fight and beat the 1st spirit, it just mean the people she killed never happen because of the butterfly effect.
I believe Kurumi believe that as well that why she continue killing people just to go back in time and change history.
What's the butterfly effect?
BladeEntity
2013-06-25, 05:51
What's the butterfly effect?
It's a theory that a small change can cause an infinite amount of different scenarios.
tuckersister
2013-06-25, 06:02
I wouldn't be surprise if Origami finds out she is spirit. Anything can happen. It would make a good story.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-25, 07:48
^ Also if Kurumi did managed to travel back in time to fight and beat the 1st spirit, it just mean the people she killed never happen because of the butterfly effect.
I believe Kurumi believe that as well that why she continue killing people just to go back in time and change history.
She's likely the most complicated character among them even with miku every single one of the spirits seems to be the type that just want to live in peace and not destroy anything. the yamai twins wanted to settle whose the true yamai yoshino and tohka seem to just want peace. Kurumi who knows and miku's just mad cause the music business is filled with assholes
Xero8420
2013-06-25, 07:48
I wouldn't be surprise if Origami finds out she is spirit. Anything can happen. It would make a good story.
And thus, it would backfire herself. Doubting of what was she doing and what would she do next if she turns out to be a Spirit. :heh:
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-25, 08:15
And thus, it would backfire herself. Doubting of what was she doing and what would she do next if she turns out to be a Spirit. :heh:
on the Brightside for her shidou only seems to kiss spirits :D:D
kazzuya13
2013-06-25, 09:21
And thus, it would backfire herself. Doubting of what was she doing and what would she do next if she turns out to be a Spirit. :heh:
It would quite the irony if the spirit she is looking is herself.
^ hahaha, it already shown that a human could become a spirit so I won't be suprise down the track where Origami is in need of power and someone offer her to become a spirit.
now i wonder how will the vol 9 cover present itself
Well I just watched over the kurumi arc again and maybe its the anime's reactions but I've got a very interesting thought. Kurumi herself is not really evil. YES she's done some horrible things but the more you look at them in a backwards way they can all be explained.
1. She's killed thousands of people.
1a. She's killed those people in order to gain power and maintain her life.
2. She's attacked mana many times
2a. Self defense on kurumi's part
3. She's tried to eat Shidou.
3a. She needs to eat humans to gain power and believes eating shidou is the best way to gain a lot of power since she knows about his abilities.
But a final possibility has occurred to me. When kurumi was introduced she knew all about shidou and presumably his information. She also likely knew about his ability to take the spirits power. We know kurumi is gaining power to attack the 1st spirit for some reason.
Before people say yes kurumi is evil think about the two critical things we DONT KNOW YET.
1st. Why is shidou so special and since im betting that phantom didn't give shidou the power to steal spirit power im assuming he had it naturally the question is why he has it and how he got it.
2nd. We don't know why kurumi is obsessed with the 1st spirit so until that stuff is known simply making kurumi out as evil is a bit rash.
After all to use another example (and by no means am I comparing the two). Everyone believed itachi was evil but when you heard his motivation almost everyone went from hating the guy to pitying him.
You're telling me you just realized this?
Also, "likely" knew about his ability? She outright knows about that ability- That is why she wants to devour him in the first place. She needs that power as a fuel for her to use her time travel ability.
^wasnt it mentioned earlier in the thread that it was phantom who told kurumi about shido?
^wasnt it mentioned earlier in the thread that it was phantom who told kurumi about shido?
Yes. Phantom informed Kurumi prior to the events of Volume 3 at some point.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-25, 13:53
You're telling me you just realized this?
Also, "likely" knew about his ability? She outright knows about that ability- That is why she wants to devour him in the first place. She needs that power as a fuel for her to use her time travel ability.
Most of the thoughts I've had I thought during the airing but never wrote them. the thing is they never mentioned how she knew about shidou in the LN or the anime just that she knew about him. As for the whole kurumi isn't evil thing we had a nasty debate about kurumi 50 or so pages back and I believed the stuff now.
Most of the thoughts I've had I thought during the airing but never wrote them. the thing is they never mentioned how she knew about shidou in the LN or the anime just that she knew about him. As for the whole kurumi isn't evil thing we had a nasty debate about kurumi 50 or so pages back and I believed the stuff now.
During the airing? That's what confuses me- I assumed you read the light novels prior to watching the show, but now you're implying otherwise. Are you claiming that my former assumption of you talking about the characters solely based on the summaries and not the actual light novels is correct?
although the part kurumi knowing shido was at epilogue of vol 4 iirc..which isnt translated yet right
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-25, 19:43
I read the LN's but I still haven't read the end of 4 and really all of 6 and 7 but that's not important the point is that in the LN I couldn't get a read but the anime really proved something didn't seem right but o well lets just wait and see whats next. The sad fact is assuming she does know all about shidou's power it means she likely wont let him kiss her because it will seal her powers and her revenge wont happen
haseo0408
2013-06-29, 09:42
hey guys do you know when volume 8 is going to be release?:confused:
hey guys do you know when volume 8 is going to be release?:confused:
already stated earlier around sept
already stated earlier around sept
good
there is more than time for volume 7 be at least half-translated...
Shinji103
2013-06-29, 20:41
Looks like the "Musu-mecha" makers have a new idol to host in their works:
http://i.imgur.com/I7PcnmJl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/I7PcnmJ.jpg)
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-29, 22:16
not bad for origami she may be a stalker for our boy shidou but honestly I wouldn't mind having a stalker like her.
Iggy_Pop
2013-06-29, 22:23
I'm seeing Robo Origami there.:D
Needs her Alice armor it is so far the best looking one she has had
even if it is based on Tohka's astral dress.
Iggy_Pop
2013-06-29, 23:28
Needs her Alice armor it is so far the best looking one she has had
even if it is based on Tohka's astral dress.
Which one is the Alice armor?
Who provided the upgraded armor for Origami?
Which one is the Alice armor?
this is the Alice armor. From Date a Strike vol 2. There are whole series of armors based on Alice books in it (Cheshire cat, Jabberwock, Unicorn, Leon (the last 2 refering to the lion and the unicorn from through the looking glass )) But it's not suprizeing as DEM loves its Alice refrences, what with the Bandersnatch and even the White Licorice was an Alice ref as it is a type of white rose.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll94/togaka3/alice.jpg (http://s286.photobucket.com/user/togaka3/media/alice.jpg.html)
Wait a minute, are you saying that AST have different armor for different scenarios.
I thought they wear the same armor ever time until AST upgrade it.
Bakaizer
2013-06-30, 08:33
yea vol 9 would be about her..
date ast like is too wordy LOL
really a volume for her? nice
but i can't get an idea regarding a story about her
maybe if shido had his first time with her ,lol
Wait a minute, are you saying that AST have different armor for different scenarios.
I thought they wear the same armor ever time until AST upgrade it.
the basic AST armor is somewhat modular allowing for different load outs. The Armors I mentioned above seem to be unique armors (note this info may be wrong as I am basing it on what I am able to make out of the Date A Strike raws) that are DEM prototypes like the White Licorice. 3 of them were stolen while the ATS was transporting them the other 2 ended up in the AST hands. Each seems to be designed for a different role Cheshire cat is a fast mêlée armor with energy claws and autoheal (it is also numbered #5). Unicorn is a armor designed to charge it's opponent with a lance like sword. Leon looks to be a beam/missile spam unit. not quite sure what Jabberwock does but it stops Origami, Ryoko, and Mana(?) dead in their tracks. I have no real info on the Alice (unit #1 hahaha) unit as Origami gets it at the end of volume 2 after what might be a deal with the devil with DEM but design wise it is clear that it is based on Tohka's Astral Dress.
Is there any summary on light novel 6 ? Thanks in advance for answering .
hmm you think they would integrate ast strike into the main?well esp for those armors..
hmm you think they would integrate ast strike into the main?well esp for those armors..
They may from the looks of it, it is post volume 6 or 7 as Mana is back on active duty with the AST .
I really do wish someone would translate it not sure why people call it wordy as it doesn't seem that bad compared to other manga but since I can't read it maybe it is too technobablish . but there are some great bits besides the fights. like Origami's raid on Shidou's locker, the epic Tohka vs Origami soccer match, Origami's closet of wonders (note the maid outfit isn't the only one in there), a flash back to Origami stopping Tohka from killing an other non combatant, Tohka's bike,
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-06-30, 20:34
where r u guys reading strike in the first place
Not really reading it but I have the books. But my ability to read Japanese is effectively 0. I can only make rough guesses based on the artwork. The armor names are clearly named in English so I am sure of those but I may have mixed up Leon and Unicorn since I'm not sure which armor came out of which pod so I went with iding them based on theme
the basic AST armor is somewhat modular allowing for different load outs. The Armors I mentioned above seem to be unique armors (note this info may be wrong as I am basing it on what I am able to make out of the Date A Strike raws) that are DEM prototypes like the White Licorice. 3 of them were stolen while the ATS was transporting them the other 2 ended up in the AST hands. Each seems to be designed for a different role Cheshire cat is a fast mêlée armor with energy claws and autoheal (it is also numbered #5). Unicorn is a armor designed to charge it's opponent with a lance like sword. Leon looks to be a beam/missile spam unit. not quite sure what Jabberwock does but it stops Origami, Ryoko, and Mana(?) dead in their tracks. I have no real info on the Alice (unit #1 hahaha) unit as Origami gets it at the end of volume 2 after what might be a deal with the devil with DEM but design wise it is clear that it is based on Tohka's Astral Dress.
My memory must of fail on me, cause I don't remember any of this in vol 2.
My memory must of fail on me, cause I don't remember any of this in vol 2.
I was refering to date a strike volume 2. As far as i can tell that is what happened.
Ohh... are you referring to this? http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=76102?
Since there no scanlation for it, that might be the reason I haven't heard of it.
Ohh... are you referring to this? http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=76102?
Since there no scanlation for it, that might be the reason I haven't heard of it.
the story is soo off. its doesnt match the original soo much
the story is soo off. its doesnt match the original soo much
@ mike211 yes that's the one.
@Aiki not sure why you are saying the story is off as it is dealing with a rouge group of what I believe were DEM mages. It seems to take place after volume 5 and likely 6 or 7 as Mana is out of hospital . Summaries have been unclear if Mana left the AST or not and that is the only point I see that ismight be off.
@ mike211 yes that's the one.
@Aiki not sure why you are saying the story is off as it is dealing with a rouge group of what I believe were DEM mages. It seems to take place after volume 5 and likely 6 or 7 as Mana is out of hospital . Summaries have been unclear if Mana left the AST or not and that is the only point I see that ismight be off.
......all of them practically get super powers and suddenly reaches Mana's level in a instant (=.=)ll Mana is one of DEM's strongest and some random bad guys appears and can take her on equally. even Mike gets a super power up and shes a noob (=.=)*literally*. and Mana gets taken away in Volume 5. starting from Vol 3 she first met origami, then gets send to the hospital until volume 5 where she gets taken away. it doesnt enter the time slot.
Am I missing something, is there english scanlation somewhere or are you guys reading the raw?
Am I missing something, is there english scanlation somewhere or are you guys reading the raw?
i read it raw
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-01, 12:05
Riki where do u read it raw
......all of them practically get super powers and suddenly reaches Mana's level in a instant (=.=)ll Mana is one of DEM's strongest and some random bad guys appears and can take her on equally. even Mike gets a super power up and shes a noob (=.=)*literally*. and Mana gets taken away in Volume 5. starting from Vol 3 she first met origami, then gets send to the hospital until volume 5 where she gets taken away. it doesnt enter the time slot.
As I said it looks to be set post volume 6 when Mana did return. The bad guys aren't quite that random and the stolen armor are pretty much super prototypes and the main reason Mana is so powerfull is due to the mods DEM put in her. It is believable that next gen DEM equipment could bridge that gap. Also Mike is not at Mana's level as Mana seems to be the only one that doesn't keep getting the cap beat out of her.
ast strike just focuses really on AST esp w/ mike..no1 tling it..mainly because.. probably 1st..well its a spinoff kind..and that series is hell as wordy -.- and a pain to redraw
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-03, 04:38
well there seems to be a minor update on Vol 6 part 3.
thx for translating volume 6 of ln but why it is translated in such order?
Speaking of Date A Strike, the person who did the summary for vol 7 posted some info about it here (http://msnkkan.blogspot.com/2013/06/right-in-two.html).
sky black swordman
2013-07-03, 21:21
thx for translating volume 6 of ln but why it is translated in such order? Who knows, I thought it may due to multiple translators' all working on different parts of volume 6. :eyebrow:
And I am still patiencely waiting for the completion of vol4 before moving on.
My stubbornness refuse me to skip volumes but luckily I am currently following alot of LNs, so it ain't all to bad.
Shinji103
2013-07-05, 00:23
http://i.imgur.com/4DjbJPHl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/4DjbJPH.jpg)
:D
sky black swordman
2013-07-05, 03:05
http://i.imgur.com/4DjbJPHl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/4DjbJPH.jpg)
:D
That beautiful and sexy, Tohka!:kisskiss:
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-05, 03:50
http://i.imgur.com/4DjbJPHl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/4DjbJPH.jpg)
:D
all 3 girls look excellent
So, my buddy was in Akiba yesterday, and apparently DAL is everywhere, though the merchandise is limited due to demand, thats a good thing i suppose
Shinji103
2013-07-05, 16:16
Finally got my hands on Date A Live Encore, and after skimming through some of it, my favorite scene (so far) came from an unexpected corner:
[After Shidou and Kurumi have walked around and had their mock-wedding photo taken]
Tohka: Kotori, Yoshino says she saw Shidou.
Kotori: ! Really? Where is he?
Tohka: About that, it seems he lifted up a cute girl's skirt and after spending a hot evening with her, he's going to take responsibility and do something called "marriage" with her....
Kotori: Huh........?
When Tohka said that, Kotori's eyes and mouth popped open.
Kotori: Wha.......what the heck! Shi, Shidou is getting married!? W, wwwwhat's up with that?!
Tohka: W, well I don't really know either.....
Kotori: Screw that! Who's this wench who stole my oniichan!!!
And just to confirm, the author says in the afternotes that Encore is indeed not counted as volume 8 as Encore isn't a numbered volume.
Miraluka
2013-07-05, 16:53
Finally got my hands on Date A Live Encore, and after skimming through some of it, my favorite scene (so far) came from an unexpected corner:
[After Shidou and Kurumi have walked around and had their mock-wedding photo taken]
Tohka: Kotori, Yoshino says she saw Shidou.
Kotori: ! Really? Where is he?
Tohka: About that, it seems he lifted up a cute girl's skirt and after spending a hot evening with her, he's going to take responsibility and do something called "marriage" with her....
Kotori: Huh........?
When Tohka said that, Kotori's eyes and mouth popped open.
Kotori: Wha.......what the heck! Shi, Shidou is getting married!? W, wwwwhat's up with that?!
Tohka: W, well I don't really know either.....
Kotori: Screw that! Who's this wench who stole my oniichan!!!
And just to confirm, the author says in the afternotes that Encore is indeed not counted as volume 8 as Encore isn't a numbered volume.
Any idea about where you would put theses events in the time line?
It would be good and will give hopes to have some of them animated in the second season or ovas.
shadow1296
2013-07-05, 16:57
Any idea about where you would put theses events in the time line?
It would be good and will give hopes to have some of them animated in the second season or ovas.
from what i understand it happens during somepoint in volume 3 before kurumi kills the clone of herself it just wasn't in the volume
Shinji103
2013-07-05, 16:59
Any idea about where you would put theses events in the time line?I don't think it actually says when it happen any of Encore happens; other than the fact that the Yamai twins have a chapter while Miku doesn't appear, there's no way to tell for sure. But given the above, I'd say between volumes 5 and 6
It would be good and will give hopes to have some of them animated in the second season or ovas.We've seen a screenshot of Origami Impossible from Encore for the episode 13 OVA that comes bundled with novel volume 9, so we know that at least some of Encore is going to be animated.
from what i understand it happens during somepoint in volume 3 before kurumi kills the clone of herself it just wasn't in the volumeThis definitely happens sometime after volume 3; the Kurumi clone in Encore is the same one that Kurumi killed on the rooftop in her arc. (and they talk about this event) She was recreated and went off on her own to find Shidou to go out on a date with him despite knowing the real Kurumi would come and kill her again.
So have we lost all our translators to this or are they just taking a break?
sky black swordman
2013-07-05, 20:20
^ No, they are still working on the LN. There was recently an update on volume 6.
Finally got my hands on Date A Live Encore, and after skimming through some of it, my favorite scene (so far) came from an unexpected corner:
[After Shidou and Kurumi have walked around and had their mock-wedding photo taken]
Tohka: Kotori, Yoshino says she saw Shidou.
Kotori: ! Really? Where is he?
Tohka: About that, it seems he lifted up a cute girl's skirt and after spending a hot evening with her, he's going to take responsibility and do something called "marriage" with her....
Kotori: Huh........?
When Tohka said that, Kotori's eyes and mouth popped open.
Kotori: Wha.......what the heck! Shi, Shidou is getting married!? W, wwwwhat's up with that?!
Tohka: W, well I don't really know either.....
Kotori: Screw that! Who's this wench who stole my oniichan!!!
And just to confirm, the author says in the afternotes that Encore is indeed not counted as volume 8 as Encore isn't a numbered volume.
Someone NEEDS to teach, Tohka, what the word "Marriage" means and is ASAP! And I wonder if this how Kotori will react whenever the subject of her brother getting married comes up?:heh:
RapidPotential
2013-07-05, 21:32
Finally got my hands on Date A Live Encore, and after skimming through some of it, my favorite scene (so far) came from an unexpected corner:
[After Shidou and Kurumi have walked around and had their mock-wedding photo taken]
Tohka: Kotori, Yoshino says she saw Shidou.
Kotori: ! Really? Where is he?
Tohka: About that, it seems he lifted up a cute girl's skirt and after spending a hot evening with her, he's going to take responsibility and do something called "marriage" with her....
Kotori: Huh........?
When Tohka said that, Kotori's eyes and mouth popped open.
Kotori: Wha.......what the heck! Shi, Shidou is getting married!? W, wwwwhat's up with that?!
Tohka: W, well I don't really know either.....
Kotori: Screw that! Who's this wench who stole my oniichan!!!
Kotori's so brocon for Shidou. The mere mention of him getting married incites such agitation and jealousy in her. Granted, she seems to harbour a desire to eventually marry him (with reference to volume 3); wonder why she even approves of him going on dates with other girls (the Spirits specifically). Is it because she knows he won't easily fall for them or something...? :heh:
I've read a little of some of the Encore chapters myself and I must say some of them are pretty amusing.
Xero8420
2013-07-06, 00:05
Finally got my hands on Date A Live Encore, and after skimming through some of it, my favorite scene (so far) came from an unexpected corner:
[After Shidou and Kurumi have walked around and had their mock-wedding photo taken]
Tohka: Kotori, Yoshino says she saw Shidou.
Kotori: ! Really? Where is he?
Tohka: About that, it seems he lifted up a cute girl's skirt and after spending a hot evening with her, he's going to take responsibility and do something called "marriage" with her....
Kotori: Huh........?
When Tohka said that, Kotori's eyes and mouth popped open.
Kotori: Wha.......what the heck! Shi, Shidou is getting married!? W, wwwwhat's up with that?!
Tohka: W, well I don't really know either.....
Kotori: Screw that! Who's this wench who stole my oniichan!!!
And just to confirm, the author says in the afternotes that Encore is indeed not counted as volume 8 as Encore isn't a numbered volume.
Says the jelly brocon who desires to marry her oniichan. *incestuous?* :heh: LOL! Even Tohka is being too innocent to know about the term "marriage". She would go jelly as well if she already knew what marriage means. :heh:
And indeed, Encore chapters are just extras. Probably suits for an OVA.
does seem riki would be doing DAL till vol 9..though successfully got some1 from FB to TL dal in BT XD though seems he's really new to BT
sky black swordman
2013-07-06, 04:55
Says the jelly brocon who desires to marry her oniichan. *incestuous?* :heh: LOL! Even Tohka is being too innocent to know about the term "marriage". She would go jelly as well if she already knew what marriage means. :heh:Not really, there aren't blood related siblings.
well, im planning to move on to another project soo.....and my projects/assignment has been a lot lately so translations are off the tables.
RapidPotential
2013-07-06, 09:30
Not really, there aren't blood related siblings.
This is true but because they have pretty much grown up together since they were young, and as siblings, it can qualify as pseudo-incest. However it's pretty one-sided on Kotori's end, as it stands.
I have been considering doing translations from Chinese versions but honestly I don't want to dedicate time to something I barely even have time to read.
Xero8420
2013-07-06, 09:38
Anyways, speaking of Kotori, I bet there will be another Hell on Earth for the second time she meets with Kurumi.
*GIVE ME BACK MY ONII-CHAN, YOU WHORE!* :heh:
Mystic_Vegetto
2013-07-06, 10:21
Has anyone read the Date A Origami 4koma? Gotta say, I really laughed during...
Kotori's Quiz Show and Robo Origami.
Has anyone read the Date A Origami 4koma? Gotta say, I really laughed during...
Kotori's Quiz Show and Robo Origami.
of corz so fun XD especially since i work on it XD though sadly the origaimi in the dragon magazine is different from the origami we get from age premium..examples would be..the magazine has ch in chronological order while premium isnt, and some ch in magazine arent in the premium and vice versa..
Ok since no one wants to actually talk to our translator I will.
@riki what are you planning to move onto? Also I saw that you preserved a spot for v6 ch4 will it be your last?
Ok since no one wants to actually talk to our translator I will.
@riki what are you planning to move onto? Also I saw that you preserved a spot for v6 ch4 will it be your last?
saw in riki's profile it vol 9 of dal? and :O new project..
iirc duo was tled by code zero as a teaser ish kind though idm either
though so far both duo and shinmai manga is close to the LN events as i heard
ohh I just noticed there's quite a random(also unordered) few updates on bt, lots of translators piling up on volume 6?
on another note
I tranlated the Kurumi Situational CD, though I don't have enough knowledge on making subbed videos :D
Shidou: Well then, I need to go home early, seems like Kotori will be going home early today.
Kurumi: Shidou-san
Shidou: Wah! Kurumi?!
Kurumi: Ara ara, you shouldn't be that surprised.
Shidou: Ah-, Why are you here?
Kurumi: Shidou-san.. You're alone today right?
Shidou: You should listen to what others are saying! Why are you here?
Kurumi: Obviously because I was waiting for Shidou-san. So, you are alone right?
Shidou: Well, you're right.
Kurumi: mahh, that's great. I wanted for us to talk together alone, I was waiting the whole time for you.
Shidou: Talk...with me?
Kurumi: I want to know everything about Shidou-san, Even little details, everything.
Shidou: What do you mean?
Kurumi: for example, Shidou-san's secret.
Shidou: My secret?
Kurumi: yes, It interests me greatly.
Shidou: I'm sorry but, Telling weaknesses to other people for ease of relief is something I won't do <not sure about translating it right xD>
Kurumi: How rude of you to say weakness,what I want to know is Shidou-san's secret.
Shidou: As if I would say it. Bye!
......
Shidou: Kurumi..
Kurumi yes, what is it?
Shidou: why are you following me?
Kurumi: I wonder why? :)
Shidou: don't answer a question with a question.
Kurumi eheh :)
Shidou: Do as you please.
Kurumi: Yes, I'll be doing so. :)
Shidou : (Well, if I walk randomly I guess she'll give up and go home)
.......
Shidou: Oh no! I got lost! Where is this?! Am I stupid or what?!
Kurumi: Did you probably, got lost on your way?
Shidou: Yeah, it seems like it.
Kurumi Aha, That's a very big problem. :)
Shidou: People who really think it's a big problem won't won't let it slide with just that smile you know.
Kurumi: Shidou-san I won't mind leading you the way back you know.
Shidou: really?!
Kurumi: yes, of course. but it isn't for free.
Shidou: On another note, I'll think of a way myself.
Kurumi: being stubborn, Shidou-san is like a child.
Shidou: I am not being stubborn, I shuold just go back at the path where I came from.
Kurumi: You should be more calm, well that part of you is very Shidou-san like.
Shidou: nghhh
Kurumi: ahh! I'm sorry, I seem to have become dense!
Shidou: eh?
Kurumi: For you to bring me here on a place without people, Shidou-san is an aggressive person it seems.
Shidou: N.No! I didn't intend it!
Kurumi: You don't need to get embarrassed Shidou-san,
Shidou: I just really got lost!!
Kurumi: If Shidou-san wants it, I will...(Comes closer)
Shidou: Wa I... Uwah! oi Kurumi! Where are do you think you are touching?!
Kurumi: eh? I still haven't done something you know.
Shidou: eh but..
nyaa
Kurumi: ara, The one over there seems like a cat, it seems like it was the one who touched you.
Shidou: That surprised me, even though it's cat, it sure isn't that afraid of people. Even if I pet it it won't run.
Shidou: How bout you pet it too Kurumi, it's fluffy it feels good.
Kurumi: Yeah..
Shidou: Look, it looks like it wants to play with you too.
Kurumi: It really is attached to people eheh and he's cute and fluffy.
Shidou: Looks like he likes you, but it's alone. I wonder where it's parent went.
Kurumi: eheh, are you possibly lost too? then you are like Shidou-san.
Shidou: ......
Kurumi: Look look, Shidou-san!
Shidou:hmm?
Kurumi: Playing around with his throat while he purrs is cute!! <probably>
Shidou: it is.
Kurumi: Shidou-san did you know? Cats like it when you touch the limbs where he can't reach.Like this
Shidou: It looks like he's happy.
Kurumi: ehe, that tickles, even if you lick my fingers it isn't delicious you know.
Shidou: Ahaha, It might be hungry.
Kurumi: Ahh that's right, I wonder if there's a thing that can be a replacement for his food.
Shidou: you look like your having fun, Kurumi.
Kurumi ehh?
Shidou, No, It's just...How can I properly say it.... A gentle smile I think? You can make faces like that, Kurumi.
Kurumi: What are you spouting nonsense for Shidou-san
Shidou: Do you like cats?
Kurumi: Ah...err...this... This child got closed so I just played with it!
Shidou: Why are you getting flustered for?
Kurumi: I am not getting flustered or anything!!
Shidou: Oi oi, if you shout that loud, the cat would get surprised.
Kurumi: kyah..
Shidou: What happened Kurumi?!
Kurumi: The cat is inside my clothes.
Shidou: Calm down! I can see things!
Kurumi: wait ahh! It tickles! Catch it please
Shidou: no no no no ! Catching it means....
Kurumi: aaaah.... hurry, if this keeps up, all I can do is take my clothes off..
Shidou: You can't do that!!
Kurumi: Shi-Shidou-san I can't take it----
Shidou: Don't take off your clothes! What if someone sees you what will you do?!
Kurumi: but, kyahh..
Shidou: Alright! I will catch it so don't take your clothes off!!
Kurumi ah.. hai, onegaishimasu wa
Kurumi: humm... Shidou-san's hands tickles.
Shidou:Endure it! It'll be over in an instant! if not I won't last long too...
Shidou: Ok! I caught it!
Kurumi: mmm ahhh...Shidou-san where do you think you are grabbing.....
Shidou: It's not what you think it is Kurumi! That was an accident! Sorry!
Kurumi: If you want to touch it, please be gentle.
Shidou: What are you saying?! Next.....
Kurumi: ahh... Not that place!!
Shidou: noo. This is for catching the cat!
Kurumi: ufufu, what are you saying Shidou-san, the cat is over there already.
nyaa
Shidou: When did it..
Kurumi: It's right about when you placed your hands inside my clothes.
Shidou: What was my effort for then....
Kurumi: ara, Wasn't it that Shidou-san already know but still did that thing to me?
Shidou: As if it would be that! I just wanted to save Kurumi!
Kurumi:ufufu, If Shidou-san is interested, then do as you please.
Shidou: I won't do it! In this kind of place!
Kurumi: then if it's on another place then you will do it?
Shidou: That's not what I meant!!
Kurumi: ehehe, I don't mind right now you know, because being alone with Shidou-san, means I can take Shidou-san all for myself.
Shidou: b but, you know, if it becomes this late, it will make others worry.
Kurumi: I want to have fun talking more with Shidou-san, I want to know more about Shidou-san.
Shidou: knowing or anything, but I haven't spoken much about anything though.
Kurumi: That's not true you know, I still don't know Shidou-san's secret but, I knew that you're quite aggressive and a shy person..
Shidou: mgh....we..well, I saw something rare from Kurumi too, I'm quite satisfied.
Kurumi: mmhah....Cute things are cute that's why....isn't that fine...
Shidou: haha, that's right.
.....
Shidou: now then, about what to do with this cat...
Shidou: What do you want to do Kurumi?
Kurumi: Me?
Shidou: Want to search for it's parents?
Kurumi: We-well if you really insist, I wouldn't mind tagging along.
Shidou: That's right, I want to. I super want to.
Kurumi: I- If you go that far then it can't be helped..
Shidou: It's decided then, you carry the cat, it seems more attached to you than it is to me.
Kurumi: alright.. Ehe here here, it's ok we'll find them soon.
Shidou: then let's go
.....
Shidou: whew, we finally came to a place I remember..
Kurumi: yeah, and we also found that cat's parent's it all ends good.
Shidou: You're kind, Kurumi. :)
Kurumi: Shi-Shidou-san just inisted on searching I just tagged along.
Shidou: At the time we send it back to it's parents, until now you have that face that's about to cry. :)
Kurumi: I didn't make that face!
Shidou: I guess we should leave it at that.
Shidou: I don't know what you are thinking but it seems like you have a gentle side too.
Kurumi: Did you just say something?
Shidou: Nope, nothing I just said that I wonder if you are thirsty?
Kurumi: eheh, you're right.
Shidou: will a vending machine do? just picked anything you like :)
Kurumi: then I'll take that offer up.
Shidou: there's a bench over there, let's take a quick break.
Shidou: I've calmed down.
Kurumi: hehe :)
Shidou: is there something weird?
Kurumi: You were quite alert a while ago, but now you are laxed.
Shidou: ah.
Kurumi: don't worry, I won't do something at this time.
Shidou: alright.
Kurumi: You accepted it that easily.
Shidou: If you do something, it's bound to be when we are alone. Well, nothing really did happen though.
Kurumi: Ahhh That's right! It's a rare chance at all, I made a blunder.
Shidou: oi oi
Kurumi: I was kidding, don't worry about it.
Shidou: Is that really a joke? (You looked like you really regretted it)
Kurumi: Thanks for that.
Shidou: That was fast, You were really that thirsty?
Kurumi: It seems like I run alot today.
Shidou: Well, you did play a lot with the cat when we were searching fo it's parents.
Kurumi: That was, I didn't have a choice but to be it's partner because it was so attached to me.
Shidou: Alright alright. :)
Shidou: Here, if you like it you can have mine too.
Kurumi: I don't like the idea of ignorin the topic at hand but, I'll take that offer.
Kurumi: ah...
Shidou: what is it? did it not fit your taste?
Kurumi: ufufu
Shidou: Is there something weird?
Kurumi: isn't this an indirect kiss?
Shidou: Indirect?!
Shidou: I didn't gave it to you with that intention!
Kurumi: Ara, is that so? I really thought you did it knowing it.
Shidou: Of course not!! As I thought I'll be drinking it! I'll buy you another one.
Kurumi: Ara, you're quite forceful.
Kurumi: ehehe, As I thought Shidou-san really is a kid. I didnt think you would be this fun person.
Shidou: I'm sorry, for being a kid.
Kurumi: I'm praising you, you know.
Shidou: I don't feel like being praised though.
Kurumi: Now it looks like we exchanged indirect kiss :)
Shidou: eh, wa Ku Kurumi! this is..
Kurumi: This time was it on purpose? or it's part of your calculations?
Shidou: It's not on purpose or within my calculations! This is an accident!!
Kurumi: You can't laugh off about it even if it's an accident right?
Shidou: I don't have any words to rebut...
Kurumi: then how was it?
Shidou: how?
Kurumi: of course, the tase of my kiss you know.
Shidou: no , even if you ask me how was it, even I don't know how it felt.
Kurumi: ara, that's a shame. Then how bout a direct next? would you taste what it felt?
Shidou: haa?!! I didn't wished for it nor prayed for it...
Shidou: (If I kissed her right now would I successfuly seal it? no, it might succeed right now.. No wait wait!)
Kurumi: hehe, that's surprising, Shidou-san isn't altogether bad.
Shidou: Ahh no! There's a deep reason behind it.
Shidou: Uwah....My cellphone..
Kurumi: Ara, that was a shame. Someone intereferred at a good time..
Shidou: (disappointed or saved....) (the mail comes from Kotori) ....Ahh!! This is bad... I totally forgot about dinner! She might be really mad right now..
Kurumi: Ara ara, that seems to be a problem, Shall I go with you and apologize?
Shidou: If you do that, you would just put oil on a fire!
Kurumi: Ara ara, is that so? I thought it would be a wonderful chance to meet people close to you.
Shidou: maybe another time.
Kurumi: you promised Shidou-san. I look forward to it..
Shidou: ouh..
Kurumi: then I should be going now.
Shidou: Eh?
Kurumi: ara, You want to be together with me more?
Shidou: That's not it.
Kurumi; I know, I didn't get my motive but I had fun. I would retreat for today.
Shidou: I see.
Kurumi by all means, if I get to be alone with you again. I would like to tour around the city again.
Shidou: Somehow, I can't honestly feel glad about it.
Kurumi: Let's meet again smoetimes Shidou-san
Shidou: Ahh, later.
Shidou: a lot happened but, I learned many thing about Kurumi, it's all good I think.
Kurumi: Shidou-san! I forgot to say it,
Shidou: Hmm? What is it?
Kurumi: Tomorrow, I will sure to ask about your secret.
Shidou: I told you I don't have the intention to tell..hmm? Wait Kurumi! What do you mean by tomorrow?!
Kurumi: ufu, well then Shidou-san, see you tomorrow.
Xero8420
2013-07-07, 22:25
Thanks for a bunch, pal. :D
Is it completed?
Xero8420
2013-07-07, 22:52
@Xero it is completed xD
Dang, that was a bit short. But it's fun as far as I read it through. :D
Notice how tsundere Shidou is. :heh:
seems the 07 DoraMag has another short story
未確認サマーバケーション
^im not sure if thats a name..although even if its not it still makes sense for a title
Tohka's profile
https://www.dropbox.com/s/87pondm65ayckvg/00_0004.jpg
Any spoilers from Date A Live Encore yet?
does any1 know where web chapter of dissapeared to on bt for date a live the one with tohka and shido locked in the storeroom?
Shinji103
2013-07-08, 07:01
Any spoilers from Date A Live Encore yet?A couple of the chapters and bits have been translated on Baka Tsuki.
I have managed to do something uploading it with subs xD
For those interested here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv0-gt43XtE&feature=youtu.be
sky black swordman
2013-07-09, 05:57
Excellent job, Ramen00. :)
Ah, Kurumi no matter how much you deny it you know full well you love cats. :heh:
Xero8420
2013-07-09, 06:44
Excellent job, Ramen00. :)
Ah, Kurrumi no matter how much you deny it you know full well you love cats. :heh:
Either way, the two are equally tsundere. :D
Kurumi being tsun-tsun of having a soft-spot on cats which she finds them cute, while Shidou is being dishonest to himself as he finds her irresistibly attractive and creepy at the same time, as well as tried not to be an accidental pervert. :heh:
ohh I just noticed there's quite a random(also unordered) few updates on bt, lots of translators piling up on volume 6?
Don't know about the others but I'm just randomly translating vol 6 ch 2 (which I just updated) since no one signed up for it. Tbh I don't follow this series at all (so if you spot any inconsistencies please change them) and will most likely stop translating it after the chapter is finished. This series just isn't my cup of tea although I do like Tohka a lot : )
Miraluka
2013-07-12, 11:10
First disc of the anime sold about 9,400 copies BD+DVD!!!
First disc of the anime sold about 9,400 copies BD+DVD!!!
Is that a lot? BTW sorry if this questions has been asked before but where did the anime end in relation to the light novels. I just finishied the anime and would like to pick up where it left off.
Thanks
omegasereon
2013-07-12, 22:21
Is that a lot? BTW sorry if this questions has been asked before but where did the anime end in relation to the light novels. I just finishied the anime and would like to pick up where it left off.
Thanks
Start at volume 5. Thought it was pretty obvious since volume 4 is half translated.
Thanks. I apreciate the help.
wow latest popularity chart for female and male goes to tohka and shido
http://seventhstyle.com/2013/07/13/date-a-live-tops-popularity-charts/
also seems dal on top 10 anime list as well
http://i.imgur.com/Jd6tjBj.jpg
edit: added top 10
Shinji103
2013-07-13, 04:20
wow latest popularity chart for female and male goes to tohka and shido
http://seventhstyle.com/2013/07/13/date-a-live-tops-popularity-charts/I've been hoping somebody would put up the Newtype poularity polls. Nice to see that DAL's popularity continues across the board. :)
Though which month is that from? If it's from before Kurumi's introduction, then that would explain why she isn't on the list. (Yoshino made it on the list, after all)
Xero8420
2013-07-13, 04:44
I've been hoping somebody would put up the Newtype poularity polls. Nice to see that DAL's popularity continues across the board. :)
Though which month is that from? If it's from before Kurumi's introduction, then that would explain why she isn't on the list. (Yoshino made it on the list, after all)
I think it was probably in a month before Kurumi was introduced (in May, I think). Even if it's in June, there's no way that Kurumi is not popular (judging from Kyousuke of Oreimo).
Newprimus
2013-07-13, 22:31
also seems dal on top 10 anime list as well
http://i.imgur.com/Jd6tjBj.jpg
edit: added top 10
This is the complete opposite of favorite rankings I've seen in other sites. Interesting.
Shinji103
2013-07-14, 00:35
This is the complete opposite of favorite rankings I've seen in other sites. Interesting.Japanese or US sites?
I think it was probably in a month before Kurumi was introduced (in May, I think). Even if it's in June, there's no way that Kurumi is not popular (judging from Kyousuke of Oreimo).
What rank was Yoshino?
Shinji103
2013-07-14, 02:18
What rank was Yoshino?In the scan from cloud04's link, Yoshino was 8th.
In the scan from cloud04's link, Yoshino was 8th.
Looks like pretty much every DAL girl made it, except Origami.. And as for Kurumi, just like you said, this magazine must have been in May or something. Or japan really dislikes yandere/yangire characters.
Shinji103
2013-07-14, 02:25
Looks like pretty much every DAL girl made it, except Origami.. And as for Kurumi, just like you said, this magazine must have been in May or something. Or japan really dislikes yandere/yangire characters.Unlikely, since Kurumi is at the top of the charts for DAL's character popularity. :heh:
http://i.imgur.com/YEDgFj8.jpg
She was flat-out number 1 on another chart posted in the anime thread.
^ oh this one XD the one where shiori is higher than the new girls LOLZ
sky black swordman
2013-07-14, 04:35
wow latest popularity chart for female and male goes to tohka and shido
http://seventhstyle.com/2013/07/13/date-a-live-tops-popularity-charts/
YES!!! My Tohka has regained her throne as number one!!:hyper-^v^:
Oh, and congrats to Shido on taking first. :)
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-14, 04:55
YES!!! My Tohka has regained her throne as number one!!:hyper-^v^:
Oh, and congrats to Shido on taking first. :)
btw did anybody else find it amusing that misaki and mikasa took 2nd and 3rd respectably
Also update on 6 part 3. Shidou YPB
okay finnaly got chapt 1 done......im skipping 2 since its not my work XD
Shinji103
2013-07-14, 12:50
any info about vol 8?It's not out until September 20th.
It's not out until September 20th.
Needs moar Kurumi + she needs more love from Shidou ;w;
Im still comfused about the status of Kurumi, so she likes shidou or not?
Shinji103
2013-07-16, 03:33
Im still comfused about the status of Kurumi, so she likes shidou or not?Undetermined. Though there have been hints that she has underlying/growing feelings for him.
He did literally jump in front of a bullet (read: big-@$$ cannon) to protect her, and he did win over her past self/copy.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-16, 03:57
well gentleman vol 6 chapter 1 is done
Im still comfused about the status of Kurumi, so she likes shidou or not?
Yeah still unknown xD if somebody knows it's Kurumi herself xD the thing at Encore and the thing at the drama CD xD It can't be really a solid proof but you can just base on that I guess?
man volume 6 chapter one was very interesting and ive read chapter 3 as well and i must say: JESSICA IS A BITCH! man i hope she just gets stomped into the ground and miku is very frisky with women lol cant wait to read more lol
Algester
2013-07-16, 21:20
Yeah still unknown xD if somebody knows it's Kurumi herself xD the thing at Encore and the thing at the drama CD xD It can't be really a solid proof but you can just base on that I guess?
the Encore Kurumi is the past? copy of Kurumi while the situation CD from the PS3 game that is left in the air
darker than black
2013-07-17, 12:33
Dressing up. Miku hates men due to a bad event in her past, so in order to get around that and seal her powers......... :heh:
Lol i thought he became a girl and wtf he is wearing a bra O_O gross....
lol finally got around to reading vol 6, when kotori called shidou oneechan, that was awesome
Daniel E.
2013-07-18, 11:24
Guys, please refrain from linking or asking about any scanlation sites while posting on this forum. It does not matter if the work in question is unlicensed, you still cannot link to it here.
Bakaizer
2013-07-19, 02:06
And so it begins
Date a Live 16.5
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q74/s720x720/1010370_640855439267768_223663129_n.jpg
holybell84
2013-07-19, 03:06
And so it begins
Date a Live 16.5
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q74/s720x720/1010370_640855439267768_223663129_n.jpg
The world will end the moment Tohka found that out......
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-19, 04:34
Stop seriously with the whole date a live 16.5 thing dude it aint funny its old.
bobokagagoka
2013-07-22, 08:55
so what exactly happened when kurumi escaped from efreet/kotori? i thought she lost her arm? but why is that she had her arm again in vol.7
Shinji103
2013-07-22, 10:43
so what exactly happened when kurumi escaped from efreet/kotori? i thought she lost her arm? but why is that she had her arm again in vol.7She actually had it back by the end of volume 4.
Remember that she uses her Dalet bullet to reverse time and "heal" her injuries, including severed limbs as we saw when Mana attacked her. She just wasn't in a good condition or situation to use it right away after Kotori blasted her with Megiddo.
She actually had it back by the end of volume 4.
Remember that she uses her Dalet bullet to reverse time and "heal" her injuries, including severed limbs as we saw when Mana attacked her. She just wasn't in a good condition or situation to use it right away after Kotori blasted her with Megiddo.
Did the anime cut the scene out where Kurumi lost her arm? Because I don't recall it.
Shinji103
2013-07-22, 13:20
Did the anime cut the scene out where Kurumi lost her arm? Because I don't recall it.Yeah, in the anime Kotori just blew a big hole in Zafkiel, probably for violence censoring like they censored the severed foot in episode 8.
I wouldn't be surprised if the BD/DVD version of episode 10 shows the actual scene though.
JediNight
2013-07-22, 13:25
Is this series actually any good? Or are you just reading it bc the zaniness is entertaining? Because the whole "the only way to defeat them is to ... date them!" and then Tohka immediately goes from tsun to deredere date mode in the anime just about made me want to gag from the stupidity of it.
I guess it's just not for me?
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-22, 13:27
Jedi the sad part is that's expected but I agree some of it is stupid but its has its moments.
Shinji103
2013-07-22, 13:49
I read it because it's good. I didn't see the first arc as dumb as you seem to, but either way it's definitely on its feet from the 3rd arc onward.
And what anime doesn't have a stupid part? :p
Is this series actually any good? Or are you just reading it bc the zaniness is entertaining? Because the whole "the only way to defeat them is to ... date them!" and then Tohka immediately goes from tsun to deredere date mode in the anime just about made me want to gag from the stupidity of it.
I guess it's just not for me?
It's good. Better in the LN, because they explain a few key points better. To summarize....
The whole "Date" thing. This is necessary because it is physically impossible for humans to defeat a spirit. The anime makes it seem like the AST can put up a fight. They can't, and they repeatedly acknowledge that what they are doing is only buying time. Except Origami, but she's irrational around spirits at best.
Tohka (and other spirits) attitude towards Shidou. Until they met him every single other human has tried to kill them. He reaches out to them and gives them the only source of companionship and kindness they have known. That's why they are so quick to become attached.
The zaniness comes from two things. One, it's anime, so the rules of reality stretch for comedy. Two, as stated before, the spirits can't be dealt with through other means. Hence the absurd date scenes.
What happens outside the dates. See, Ratatoskr does everything they can to keep the focus on the dates and in the aspect of a "dating sim". Eventually reality hits and the spirits have to use their powers for something. This sends the story straight into the horror genre.... told from the perspective of the monster. I hate Origami and the AST for various reasons, but even I felt sorry for them after what Tohka did to them.
IMO I really didn't like the adaptation that much..... Too much for fanservice.. didn't explained quite a few points.. skipped some funny scenes.
...Imouto wars wasn't focused that much!! Tohka and Yoshino talked while they are having the war which leaves the focus on both the imoutos OTL
So I recommend reading the LN more xD
Welsh_Dragon
2013-07-23, 02:13
Over all, the animation staff butchered it a bit. I am definitely gonna start reading it now that I have free time.
Shinji103
2013-07-23, 04:43
IMO I really didn't like the adaptation that much..... Too much for fanservice..Honestly, with all due respect, your statement failed a good bit right when you said that.
I'm not sure how the novels are any less fanservicey than the anime, other than the fact that the novels can't show it visually as much simply because it's a novel, which by definition and default prevents it from largely using actual fanservice shots. But the text makes it amply clear that there's a good deal of fanservice in the wording.
And each volume of the novels starts with a pic of the front cover girl(s) shown at least half-naked for a reason. :heh:
Algester
2013-07-23, 05:10
Honestly, with all due respect, your statement failed a good bit right when you said that.
I'm not sure how the novels are any less fanservicey than the anime, other than the fact that the novels can't show it visually as much simply because it's a novel, which by definition and default prevents it from largely using actual fanservice shots. But the text makes it amply clear that there's a good deal of fanservice in the wording.
And each volume of the novels starts with a pic of the front cover girl(s) shown at least half-naked for a reason. :heh:
but hey the more fanservicy written novels should really go to HS DxD, Campione? nah... but unless you like raunchy kissing this one has less of a fanservice but the element is still there, but people still read DAL even though the plot sounds stupid but its definitely a fun to read so I guess I can't just ignore the anime exist since again they did show up some important parts yet not everything but again like SAO some people in the animation staff by then understand that the audience may have more or less read some of the light novel volumes
Well I guess I'm the only one who enjoyed both the anime granted it didn't follow the LN perfectly I'm still glad they animated it and we're getting a second season
i dont think the anime had that much fanservice compared to the LN version for DAL..
although probably the only thing you would imagine after the anime would be..when you read the LN again, imagine w/ the voices already LOL if you like the VA that is
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-23, 06:22
I enjoyed both the anime was amusing but it wasn't perfect no anime ever is from an LN and campione was butchered completely compared to the other ones so its fine. the next season will be fun and im curious how much of the yamai twins arc will be censored and likely the full miku arc will be an interesting read plus maybe 1 more arc tbd.
actually the anime for DAL managed to include almost all the major fanservice moments from the 1st 4 volumes. Tohka's arc had no fanservice really at all. Yoshino's the only service came from Origami Kurumi was a fanservice dream and the kotori arc did the fanservice justice especially the bikini competition before the date with kotori the pool was also quite nice. But if u wanna see fanservice etched into the story the yamai twins are you.
Honestly, with all due respect, your statement failed a good bit right when you said that.
I'm not sure how the novels are any less fanservicey than the anime, other than the fact that the novels can't show it visually as much simply because it's a novel, which by definition and default prevents it from largely using actual fanservice shots. But the text makes it amply clear that there's a good deal of fanservice in the wording.
And each volume of the novels starts with a pic of the front cover girl(s) shown at least half-naked for a reason. :heh:
Yeah the novel is filled with that too, what I meant by too much, was too much, can't take the right words out of it.. Hmmm it's taking up all the time for the fanservice rather than the explaining and movement of it. For example Tohka's transformation scene it took a lot of time just to transform into Raizen High uniform.
PS: I wouldn't mind those fanservice it if it was more than 12 episodes.. xD
Shinji103
2013-07-23, 10:54
but hey the more fanservicy written novels should really go to HS DxD, Campione? nah... but unless you like raunchy kissing this one has less of a fanservice but the element is still there, but people still read DAL even though the plot sounds stupid but its definitely a fun to read so I guess I can't just ignore the anime exist since again they did show up some important parts yet not everything but again like SAO some people in the animation staff by then understand that the audience may have more or less read some of the light novel volumesMy point is that there's plenty of fanservice in the novels between secondary cover illustrations and the black and white illustrations throughout the volumes. (certainly no less than the anime) So if you can stand it in the novels, the anime won't be a problem.
Well I guess I'm the only one who enjoyed both the anime granted it didn't follow the LN perfectly I'm still glad they animated it and we're getting a second seasonNope, I enjoyed the anime lots.
I enjoyed both the anime was amusing but it wasn't perfect no anime ever is from an LN and campione was butchered completely compared to the other ones so its fine. the next season will be fun and im curious how much of the yamai twins arc will be censored and likely the full miku arc will be an interesting read plus maybe 1 more arc tbd.From the announcement for season 2 (which was really just a bunch of illustrations plucked straight out of the novel images in color), season 2 will end with volume 7. As it should.
actually the anime for DAL managed to include almost all the major fanservice moments from the 1st 4 volumes. Tohka's arc had no fanservice really at all. Yoshino's the only service came from Origami Kurumi was a fanservice dream and the kotori arc did the fanservice justice especially the bikini competition before the date with kotori the pool was also quite nice. But if u wanna see fanservice etched into the story the yamai twins are you.Mmmmmm, Tohka's arc had some service, between her changing into the high school uniform and when Shidou sealed her powers.
Yeah the novel is filled with that too, what I meant by too much, was too much, can't take the right words out of it.. Hmmm it's taking up all the time for the fanservice rather than the explaining and movement of it. For example Tohka's transformation scene it took a lot of time just to transform into Raizen High uniform.
PS: I wouldn't mind those fanservice it if it was more than 12 episodes.. xDWell that's not really true. The anime had plenty of fanservice, but the scenes weren't long. Tohka's transformation scene was only about 7 seconds long.
It was really episode 6 that ate up time that could have been used for explaining things, whether they made the Yoshino arc three episodes or kept episode 6 an anime-original episode and put the explanations there. I personally liked the episode for what it was, but it could have been used more effectively in the overall flow of the series.
Or, as I brought up in the anime thread, they might have intentionally held back on some explanations until season 2 maybe.
haseo0408
2013-07-23, 15:23
It's good. Better in the LN, because they explain a few key points better. To summarize....
The whole "Date" thing. This is necessary because it is physically impossible for humans to defeat a spirit. The anime makes it seem like the AST can put up a fight. They can't, and they repeatedly acknowledge that what they are doing is only buying time. Except Origami, but she's irrational around spirits at best.
Tohka (and other spirits) attitude towards Shidou. Until they met him every single other human has tried to kill them. He reaches out to them and gives them the only source of companionship and kindness they have known. That's why they are so quick to become attached.
The zaniness comes from two things. One, it's anime, so the rules of reality stretch for comedy. Two, as stated before, the spirits can't be dealt with through other means. Hence the absurd date scenes.
What happens outside the dates. See, Ratatoskr does everything they can to keep the focus on the dates and in the aspect of a "dating sim". Eventually reality hits and the spirits have to use their powers for something. This sends the story straight into the horror genre.... told from the perspective of the monster. I hate Origami and the AST for various reasons, but even I felt sorry for them after what Tohka did to them.
To be honest I hate Origami a lot too, even when her parents were killed by a spirit I don´t feel much symphaty for her. Why? 1)Shidou explains her that it was another spirit who caused the disaster not Kotori, a guy who never lies and she claims to love, never the less she was more than ready to cut him in half along with Kotori just to release her hatred for her tragedy. 2)She treats all the spirits like dirt even when their powers sel and knowing they the real victims in all this mess, hell humans in this story more like monsters that the spirits themselfs.
Here we go again.............*sigh* Why cant everyone just enjoy the novel instead of being a troll
Silly evil humans putting their towns and cities in the way of the poor spirits' comings and goings.
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-23, 21:20
Here we go again.............*sigh* Why cant everyone just enjoy the novel instead of being a troll
some people think they can make the novel better but their wrong usually best to ignore the fools huh riki and hope the people doing the novel ignore them too.
Here we go again.............*sigh* Why cant everyone just enjoy the novel instead of being a troll
Silly evil humans putting their towns and cities in the way of the poor spirits' comings and goings.
Yay, here we go agaaaainnnn~~~~~~
down the road to waaarrrr~~~~
Jokes aside, I have no problem with the humans. Most of the normals are great people, except that damn "gross" girl. And even most of the humans in the know are actually perfectly good people. Hell, you could consider them heroes. I understand perfectly why the AST do what they do, right up till they figure out that Tohka was sealed and don't try to figure out how.
My problems with Origami stem from her character type, which I just don't like. The fact that the AST are attacking the spirits at first makes sense. These monsters show up in the middle of an explosion and destroy their surroundings by existing. Not to mention the first space-quake killed like 100 million people. I'd say that warrants some hostility. But since they are perfectly aware that they can't actually kill a spirit, forget being curious about human!Tohka. They should be desperately trying to figure out what the f**k caused this and how they can make it happen again.
Tohka herself says she understands why the AST attack her: because she hurts their world by being there. But Shidou has a way around that. They know (or at least Origami does) that he is at least part of it if not the center. It would have made so much more sense if they just brought him in. They don't have to join up, they don't have to all become okay with the spirits. In fact, the most likely (most exciting) scenario would be they want to use him against the spirits, and Ratatoskr and the girls have to break him out. But they don't do anything! The author is determined to keep them as little more than punching bags for the spirits so we know how much Shidou needs to seal them.
Slightly-off topic but this also does concern about Reine and her lack of sleep.
Apparently, someone beat her record in real life:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080513061843/http:/www.thanhniennews.com/features/?catid=10&newsid=12673
Shinji103
2013-07-24, 03:19
Jokes aside, I have no problem with the humans. Most of the normals are great people, except that damn "gross" girl. And even most of the humans in the know are actually perfectly good people. Hell, you could consider them heroes. I understand perfectly why the AST do what they do, right up till they figure out that Tohka was sealed and don't try to figure out how.
My problems with Origami stem from her character type, which I just don't like. The fact that the AST are attacking the spirits at first makes sense. These monsters show up in the middle of an explosion and destroy their surroundings by existing. Not to mention the first space-quake killed like 100 million people. I'd say that warrants some hostility. But since they are perfectly aware that they can't actually kill a spirit, forget being curious about human!Tohka. They should be desperately trying to figure out what the f**k caused this and how they can make it happen again.
Tohka herself says she understands why the AST attack her: because she hurts their world by being there. But Shidou has a way around that. They know (or at least Origami does) that he is at least part of it if not the center. It would have made so much more sense if they just brought him in. They don't have to join up, they don't have to all become okay with the spirits. In fact, the most likely (most exciting) scenario would be they want to use him against the spirits, and Ratatoskr and the girls have to break him out. But they don't do anything! The author is determined to keep them as little more than punching bags for the spirits so we know how much Shidou needs to seal them.Given recent events with DEM, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a plot point. Clearly whatever Wescott's exact plans are, it involves sending spirits into despair to force out their true forms as he did with Tohka. Letting the AST find a peaceful way to end the conflict would be heavily counter-productuve to this, and with his company being the major supplier of Realizers to the world, which are used in several levels of government, thus he automatically has heavy political pull. DEM is officially and outwardly opposed to peace with the spirits, after all. So it would make sense if he's pulling strings to keep sealing the spirits' powers off the table for the AST, as he has no control over Ratatosk.
Ratatosk absorbs AST into their ranks XD lolz..well they already got mana XD
To be honest I hate Origami a lot too, even when her parents were killed by a spirit I don´t feel much symphaty for her. Why? 1)Shidou explains her that it was another spirit who caused the disaster not Kotori, a guy who never lies and she claims to love, never the less she was more than ready to cut him in half along with Kotori just to release her hatred for her tragedy. 2)She treats all the spirits like dirt even when their powers sel and knowing they the real victims in all this mess, hell humans in this story more like monsters that the spirits themselfs.
Why?
No offense but, did you see how Origami went inside DEM even with that state just to save Shidou? She even battled with Elen. Also at the Yamai Tempest when Shidou was outside and Origami tried her hardest just to get past the new cr-unit that blocks her way?...I believe she didn't even treat the spirits dirt even when power sealed... Just that on Tohka it's just the feeling of jealousy..
She didn't even treat Yoshino as dirt, as for Yamai twins also. xD
Well I guess it's your opinion and I can't change it.
endarion88
2013-07-24, 11:08
i dont really like origami but i don't hate her either and for the whole spirit=dirt i think than the real villain monster is mana
here how mana brain works
warning a wild nightmare (kurumi) has appeared
1) shot
2) decapitate
3) impale
4) dissemble
5) turn her to dust
6) send her to the oblivion
7) anything that kill her is fine!
8) random from the above mentioned
Given recent events with DEM, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a plot point. Clearly whatever Wescott's exact plans are, it involves sending spirits into despair to force out their true forms as he did with Tohka. Letting the AST find a peaceful way to end the conflict would be heavily counter-productuve to this, and with his company being the major supplier of Realizers to the world, which are used in several levels of government, thus he automatically has heavy political pull. DEM is officially and outwardly opposed to peace with the spirits, after all. So it would make sense if he's pulling strings to keep sealing the spirits' powers off the table for the AST, as he has no control over Ratatosk.
There. This right here. This makes the AST so much better as antagonists. That's all they needed, a proper explanation for a few of the bigger plot holes.
Shinji103
2013-07-24, 14:06
There. This right here. This makes the AST so much better as antagonists. That's all they needed, a proper explanation for a few of the bigger plot holes.Well, that's only speculation on my part. It hasn't been said if Wescott or DEM has any real control over the AST at all. (aside from being able to get Mana on the roster)
But it would make perfect sense.
Miraluka
2013-07-25, 14:15
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-17579.html
So, whats the big deal for not being 2 cour anime? I thought it was obvious.
i would probably coz the anime was announced when it only had vol 3 out..when anime ended they had about the encore just came out or so
i assume they didnt think how will the novel go or so..
on side note: any1 can take a look at his?Tohka's profile
https://www.dropbox.com/s/87pondm65ayckvg/00_0004.jpg
iirc one is hobbies and the one with the slightly erased was "kissing shido"
i dont really like origami but i don't hate her either and for the whole spirit=dirt i think than the real villain monster is mana
here how mana brain works
warning a wild nightmare (kurumi) has appeared
1) shot
2) decapitate
3) impale
4) dissemble
5) turn her to dust
6) send her to the oblivion
7) anything that kill her is fine!
8) random from the above mentioned
Given their conversation it looks more like Kurumi is trying to shape Mana into said monster as a) Kurumi doesn't care if she is killed and b) she is actively killing people.
Yay, here we go agaaaainnnn~~~~~~
down the road to waaarrrr~~~~
Jokes aside, I have no problem with the humans. Most of the normals are great people, except that damn "gross" girl. And even most of the humans in the know are actually perfectly good people. Hell, you could consider them heroes. I understand perfectly why the AST do what they do, right up till they figure out that Tohka was sealed and don't try to figure out how.
My problems with Origami stem from her character type, which I just don't like. The fact that the AST are attacking the spirits at first makes sense. These monsters show up in the middle of an explosion and destroy their surroundings by existing. Not to mention the first space-quake killed like 100 million people. I'd say that warrants some hostility. But since they are perfectly aware that they can't actually kill a spirit, forget being curious about human!Tohka. They should be desperately trying to figure out what the f**k caused this and how they can make it happen again.
Tohka herself says she understands why the AST attack her: because she hurts their world by being there. But Shidou has a way around that. They know (or at least Origami does) that he is at least part of it if not the center. It would have made so much more sense if they just brought him in. They don't have to join up, they don't have to all become okay with the spirits. In fact, the most likely (most exciting) scenario would be they want to use him against the spirits, and Ratatoskr and the girls have to break him out. But they don't do anything! The author is determined to keep them as little more than punching bags for the spirits so we know how much Shidou needs to seal them.
This is also why I wish Date a Strike was translated as it showed that before being sealed Tohka was extremely aggressive causing massive property damage and attacking and nearly killing a cowering Mike and would have had the AST not shown up at that point to save her. It also drives home some of the more horrific things that DEM is doing that is only hinted at by the Bandersntach dolls (ie the CR units need a human brain to be operated) and what they did to Mana.
sky black swordman
2013-07-25, 21:07
Honestly, I can somewhat understand other people's reasons for disliking and downright hating Origami, and that's fine. That's their opinion, which they are entitled to.
I personally don't dislike Origami, in fact I like her quite a bit. Although she is not in my top 5 favorite characters for this series. :heh: One thing, I like about Origami is
aggressiveness in trying to get Shido to her's. It's something that reminds me of a other characters from various series, I love to read. Another thing that I like about her is willingness to do whatever she needs to do, to protect the boy she loves. No matter the what consequences that may befall her for said actions or despite the condition she is in.
One thing I do find irritating about her is, her blocking Tohka from progressing her relationship with Shido. But this is something I can understand.
There's one particular incident in the LN that prevents me from loving Origami to only like her. The incident that cause me to see Origami in a negative light was when she attack Kotori. While I can undrestand Origami's wanting to kill Kotori (who Origami believes is the one who killed her parents) for revenge, but to attack Kotori, who is in the amusement park which is full of innocent people is unacceptable.
Bakaizer
2013-07-25, 21:23
Honestly, I can somewhat understand other people's reasons for disliking and downright hating Origami, and that's fine. That's their opinion, which they are entitled to.
I personally don't dislike Origami, in fact I like her quite a bit. Although she is not in my top 5 favorite characters for this series. :heh: One thing, I like about Origami is
aggressiveness in trying to get Shido to her's. It's something that reminds me of a other characters from various series, I love to read. Another thing that I like about her is willingness to do whatever she needs to do, to protect the boy she loves. No matter the what consequences that may befall her for said actions or despite the condition she is in.
One thing I do find irritating about her is, her blocking Tohka from progressing her relationship with Shido. But this is something I can understand.
There's one particular incident in the LN that prevents me from loving Origami to only like her. The incident that cause me to see Origami in a negative light was when she attack Kotori. While I can undrestand Origami's wanting to kill Kotori (who Origami believes is the one who killed her parents) for revenge, but to attack Kotori, who is in the amusement park which is full of innocent people is unacceptable.
I believe she lost herself at that time. she forgot to think due to her emotional rage
I also like Origami , the fact that she is the most aggressive among the girls mean that she mostly deserves the reward and is not useless compared to Lucy of FT. Screw Lucy
I believe she lost herself at that time. she forgot to think due to her emotional rage
I also like Origami , the fact that she is the most aggressive among the girls mean that she mostly deserves the reward and is not useless compared to Lucy of FT. Screw Lucy
i think when vol 8 comes out..miku would probably the most aggressive now
holybell84
2013-07-25, 22:50
Just breeze thru Tohka Working (Novel attached to Blu-ray vol 2)
Tohka.... the new queen of misunderstanding. She was describing what she did on her part time job:
Uniform: BUNNY LIKE-----> Shidou, shocked, (bunny girl???)
Have to serve a drink that when drunk, will make one feel hot, called GIN----->Shidou, "Gin Tonic??? Isn't she supposed to work in a normal cafe?????"
After work, have to go to the back to make the cafe owner feel good----->Shidou "WTF????"
So Shidou went to do some investigative work and:
Bunny Like-----> Just a bunny image and her name on the front of uniform (need to check this, but definitely no bunny girl)
GIN------> GINger Honey Milk
Make Cafe Owner Feel Good ----> Owner getting on his age, they help massage his stiff shoulders after work LOL
Just breeze thru Tohka Working (Novel attached to Blu-ray vol 2)
Tohka.... the new queen of misunderstanding. She was describing what she did on her part time job:
Uniform: BUNNY LIKE-----> Shidou, shocked, (bunny girl???)
Have to serve a drink that when drunk, will make one feel hot, called GIN----->Shidou, "Gin Tonic??? Isn't she supposed to work in a normal cafe?????"
After work, have to go to the back to make the cafe owner feel good----->Shidou "WTF????"
So Shidou went to do some investigative work and:
Bunny Like-----> Just a bunny image and her name on the front of uniform (need to check this, but definitely no bunny girl)
GIN------> GINger Honey Milk
Make Cafe Owner Feel Good ----> Owner getting on his age, they help massage his stiff shoulders after work LOL
gahh sad i cant get vol 2 BD D:
Xero8420
2013-07-26, 02:08
i think when vol 8 comes out..miku would probably the most aggressive now
Heads up! Yandere tendency inbound! :heh:
i think when vol 8 comes out..miku would probably the most aggressive now
before that, you have to read the disgusting part of her in vol 6. DAMN i really hate this volume, miku really is a jerk here, makes it so hard to translate.
before that, you have to read the disgusting part of her in vol 6. DAMN i really hate this volume, miku really is a jerk here, makes it so hard to translate.
Don't give up Riki!! Don't give up cause she's a jerk lol
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-26, 12:38
before that, you have to read the disgusting part of her in vol 6. DAMN i really hate this volume, miku really is a jerk here, makes it so hard to translate.
She's not a jerk if u've read the truth about miku u know she hated men because well men treated her terribly and phantom used that anger to make her a spirit. Read it because its best to think about her past and u may come to understand her later afterwards.
before that, you have to read the disgusting part of her in vol 6. DAMN i really hate this volume, miku really is a jerk here, makes it so hard to translate.
Well yea i know about her on vol 6, although a yuri girl turns 360 just towards one guy you can expect some aggressive plans..and for some reason i get she would be like vert boasting about her bust lol
what did the men do to her? o.o abuse her or something?
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-26, 18:52
what did the men do to her? o.o abuse her or something?
Miku was a human who was an idol and I believe the guy was her manager told her that the only way she would be famous is if she slept with him when she refused him he essentially had her blackballed (she couldn't get work) and I think she tried to kill herself. Phantom took advantage of her hate and used that to make her a spirit.
She's not a jerk if u've read the truth about miku u know she hated men because well men treated her terribly and phantom used that anger to make her a spirit. Read it because its best to think about her past and u may come to understand her later afterwards.
.....You're telling the translator to read the novel lol,obiously i read it before translating it. because i read the novel, i know shes evil (assuming you judge her by the summaries and spoilers only). just you wait, she may turn out okay in the end but right now i still need to finish vol 6 which is like fighting with a dinosaur with a spoon
Info about Volume 8 is officially up on Kadokawa site (http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/lnovel/bk_detail.php?pcd=201302000001).
It's about the seventh Spirit 七罪 (Nanazai? Shimichi? Natsumi? No one knows how to say her name yet) who is a shapeshifter and has transformed herself into one of the people Shidou is familiar with. Shidou must date these people in order to unmask 七罪's disguise (hence the title 七罪Search). But there are a total of 12 suspects?!
Could be fun.
Info about Volume 8 is officially up on Kadokawa site (http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/lnovel/bk_detail.php?pcd=201302000001).
It's about the seventh Spirit 七罪 (Nanazai? Shimichi? Natsumi? No one knows how to say her name yet) who is a shapeshifter and has transformed herself into one of the people Shidou is familiar with. Shidou must date these people in order to unmask 七罪's disguise (hence the title 七罪Search). But there are a total of 12 suspects?!
Could be fun.
shld be natsumi, and yeah it does sound interesting.
Shinji103
2013-07-26, 22:40
Well yea i know about her on vol 6, although a yuri girl turns 360 just towards one guy you can expect some aggressive plans..and for some reason i get she would be like vert boasting about her bust lolYou mean "a 180." :p ;)
And to be clear, it wasn't that she's yuri, it's much more that she hates men because of her past trauma. She doesn't see even girls in a good light either, to her they're just servants to control.
Miku was a human who was an idol and I believe the guy was her manager told her that the only way she would be famous is if she slept with him when she refused him he essentially had her blackballed (she couldn't get work) and I think she tried to kill herself. Phantom took advantage of her hate and used that to make her a spirit.It was a big TV producer and not her manager, but this is essentially correct. To elaborate a little,the guy spread false scandals about her so she lost her work with her agency, and when she tried to get back in peoples' favor with her singing, she lost her voice. She was thinking about suicide when Phantom came to her and turned her into a spirit. As a result of this, she hates all men. (and it's dang hard to blame her)
Info about Volume 8 is officially up on Kadokawa site (http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/lnovel/bk_detail.php?pcd=201302000001).
It's about the seventh Spirit 七罪 (Nanazai? Shimichi? Natsumi? No one knows how to say her name yet) who is a shapeshifter and has transformed herself into one of the people Shidou is familiar with. Shidou must date these people in order to unmask 七罪's disguise (hence the title 七罪Search). But there are a total of 12 suspects?!
Could be fun.Well that's a bit of a twist. :twitch:
Newprimus
2013-07-26, 22:56
Hell it's like World God only knows all over again, but crazier!
Eijigawa
2013-07-26, 23:01
Dat voice of hers...... I'm having a constant heavenly eargasm just by listening to her!
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Kurumi -> :love:
Shinji103
2013-07-26, 23:12
Dat voice of hers...... I'm having a constant heavenly eargasm just by listening to her!
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Kurumi -> :love:I already have the drama CD myself and can understand Japanese, but DANG that's awesome. :)
ImperialFlameGod8190
2013-07-27, 03:55
.....You're telling the translator to read the novel lol,obiously i read it before translating it. because i read the novel, i know shes evil (assuming you judge her by the summaries and spoilers only). just you wait, she may turn out okay in the end but right now i still need to finish vol 6 which is like fighting with a dinosaur with a spoon
sorry riki I always was a wildfire guy I suppose my point is yes she's a bit bitchy but u know that she had a good reason for it
and the spirit thing that kinda annoys me although goodie for origami
Info about Volume 8 is officially up on Kadokawa site (http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/lnovel/bk_detail.php?pcd=201302000001).
It's about the seventh Spirit 七罪 (Nanazai? Shimichi? Natsumi? No one knows how to say her name yet) who is a shapeshifter and has transformed herself into one of the people Shidou is familiar with. Shidou must date these people in order to unmask 七罪's disguise (hence the title 七罪Search). But there are a total of 12 suspects?!
Could be fun.
7th right..i just remembered this pic
http://s12.postimg.org/mr4rcdl7h/Fbb5_W.jpg
and look what i saw..fertility LOL is that why she's trying to be close to shido?
Miraluka
2013-07-27, 10:08
Its Natsumi, but her name has a doble meaning when read as Seven Sins. Btw, this sounds like fun.
So can we make the list of suspects?
- Tohka.
- Origami.
- Kotori.
- Yamai Yuzuru.
- Yamai Kagura.
- Yoshino.
- Kurumi.
- Reine.
- Miku.
- Mana
- Kanazuki.
- Tonomachi.
Did you thought the shapeshifter will only choose females?:heh:
Its Natsumi, but her name has a doble meaning when read as Seven Sins. Btw, this sounds like fun.
So can we make the list of suspects?
- Tohka.
- Origami.
- Kotori.
- Yamai Yuzuru.
- Yamai Kagura.
- Yoshino.
- Kurumi.
- Reine.
- Miku.
- Mana
- Kanazuki.
- Tonomachi.
Did you thought the shapeshifter will only choose females?:heh:
Tohka,Origami,Kotori and Yamai sisters are obviously the characters with the highest chance.
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